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		<title>By: Ugly Betty Episode 3.13 Sneak Peek</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 3.13, Kissed off airs next week - February 5.&#160; Tonight is a rebroadcast of episode 3.04, Betty Suarez Land, a very good episode indeed (especially for all you Gio [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>george -

You are right, not all Getty fans are nice and polite.  And the same goes for all groups of UB fans - whether they like Daniel or Henry or want Betty single.  There are obnoxious people everywhere and as a whole, Getty fans are quite polite, until they are provoked - which people seem to love to do.</description>
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<p>You are right, not all Getty fans are nice and polite.  And the same goes for all groups of UB fans &#8211; whether they like Daniel or Henry or want Betty single.  There are obnoxious people everywhere and as a whole, Getty fans are quite polite, until they are provoked &#8211; which people seem to love to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Beatrice B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beatrice B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George, agreed: We must never use absolute terms when we are talking about a group of individuals. But in general terms, I believe Team Gio members are quite polite and decent compared to the average shipper. And I can usually guarantee you can have any decent and thoughful argument with most of our members (hahaha... I am affraid this might sound like cult). I am surprised to have met extremely talented, mature and inteligent people among the Getty Girls/Guys.

Maybe you will be surprised about this but despite appearances some people can have a high demanding job and real life and still be able to plan and organize their hobbies. People who before meeting the fictional character Gio (or Rodriguez) have never being an obsessed fan of anything... this character and this actor made us do things we would never do before like blogging, writing, etc. that we never did even in our teenage or younger years. 

But I agree in that probably some people have more internet availability than others and I guess not everyone really invests their time in being a fan (I know I didn&#039;t before and I will not anymore after Gio is out of the picture... *if* he is ever out of the picture). But I know very well organized fan groups. Probably they just need some will to spice up again?

And well, all Freddy Fans know about his upcoming projects and we are pretty sure to track him up and keep promoting him. But it is still good to see F-Rod and my Ugly betty addiction mix together... it&#039;s exhilarating and inspiring. Especially when he is doing very good for the show. So, I see not reason why not to support his character and the wonderful job he is doing there.

(now look at that... I have posted just way too much. Maybe you are right. I better stop before I get fired from my job... but then I´ll have more time to spend in my UB addiction... hummm *ponders*)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George, agreed: We must never use absolute terms when we are talking about a group of individuals. But in general terms, I believe Team Gio members are quite polite and decent compared to the average shipper. And I can usually guarantee you can have any decent and thoughful argument with most of our members (hahaha&#8230; I am affraid this might sound like cult). I am surprised to have met extremely talented, mature and inteligent people among the Getty Girls/Guys.</p>
<p>Maybe you will be surprised about this but despite appearances some people can have a high demanding job and real life and still be able to plan and organize their hobbies. People who before meeting the fictional character Gio (or Rodriguez) have never being an obsessed fan of anything&#8230; this character and this actor made us do things we would never do before like blogging, writing, etc. that we never did even in our teenage or younger years. </p>
<p>But I agree in that probably some people have more internet availability than others and I guess not everyone really invests their time in being a fan (I know I didn&#8217;t before and I will not anymore after Gio is out of the picture&#8230; *if* he is ever out of the picture). But I know very well organized fan groups. Probably they just need some will to spice up again?</p>
<p>And well, all Freddy Fans know about his upcoming projects and we are pretty sure to track him up and keep promoting him. But it is still good to see F-Rod and my Ugly betty addiction mix together&#8230; it&#8217;s exhilarating and inspiring. Especially when he is doing very good for the show. So, I see not reason why not to support his character and the wonderful job he is doing there.</p>
<p>(now look at that&#8230; I have posted just way too much. Maybe you are right. I better stop before I get fired from my job&#8230; but then I´ll have more time to spend in my UB addiction&#8230; hummm *ponders*)</p>
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		<title>By: george r.</title>
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		<dc:creator>george r.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beatrice says:  &quot;If we, Getties, are louder now it’s because the others are silent.

So instead of bashing those who are doing a decent (and quite polite) work in the net why don’t you all step up and raise your voice “marc, mandy, willie, christina, suarez family fans and shippers’ throughout”.

----
Well, here&#039;s something I learned about fandoms:  Every ship has bad seeds.  And I&#039;ve read some pretty militant and not-so-nice comments from &quot;Getty&quot; fans at the ABC boards, for instance.  Not all &quot;Getty fans&quot; are sweet and nice like sugar and spice, you know?   I think some of those fans make your ship sound a lot louder and more obnoxious, truth be told.

And hey - this really is a great show, but it&#039;s still just a show, too.  I&#039;m sure some of the UB fans of other characters do their part to write in a fan letter or two once in a while and join discussion boards like this one, but truthfully?  People have jobs and real life to contend with, so not everyone can set aside time to actively campaign 24/7 for some TV show character like some of you do.  

And with that in mind, you shouldn&#039;t take it to heart if Gio never comes back.  Freddy Rodriguez is a good actor, and he&#039;ll definitely show up in other projects along the way that will interest you anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beatrice says:  &#8220;If we, Getties, are louder now it’s because the others are silent.</p>
<p>So instead of bashing those who are doing a decent (and quite polite) work in the net why don’t you all step up and raise your voice “marc, mandy, willie, christina, suarez family fans and shippers’ throughout”.</p>
<p>&#8212;-<br />
Well, here&#8217;s something I learned about fandoms:  Every ship has bad seeds.  And I&#8217;ve read some pretty militant and not-so-nice comments from &#8220;Getty&#8221; fans at the ABC boards, for instance.  Not all &#8220;Getty fans&#8221; are sweet and nice like sugar and spice, you know?   I think some of those fans make your ship sound a lot louder and more obnoxious, truth be told.</p>
<p>And hey &#8211; this really is a great show, but it&#8217;s still just a show, too.  I&#8217;m sure some of the UB fans of other characters do their part to write in a fan letter or two once in a while and join discussion boards like this one, but truthfully?  People have jobs and real life to contend with, so not everyone can set aside time to actively campaign 24/7 for some TV show character like some of you do.  </p>
<p>And with that in mind, you shouldn&#8217;t take it to heart if Gio never comes back.  Freddy Rodriguez is a good actor, and he&#8217;ll definitely show up in other projects along the way that will interest you anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beatrice is totally right.  There were far too many story lines competing last year and trying to blame the scattered feeling of season 2 on Getty fans is just wrong.  We were the underdogs.  I feel that like that story line didn&#039;t get enough attention to have it work out and completely make sense, so I feel cheated, too.  And I also like other characters in the show.

And you can&#039;t cater to every fan or Betty would be simultaneously married to Gio, Henry, Daniel and be single.  And that is just one part of the &quot;life&quot; of one character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beatrice is totally right.  There were far too many story lines competing last year and trying to blame the scattered feeling of season 2 on Getty fans is just wrong.  We were the underdogs.  I feel that like that story line didn&#8217;t get enough attention to have it work out and completely make sense, so I feel cheated, too.  And I also like other characters in the show.</p>
<p>And you can&#8217;t cater to every fan or Betty would be simultaneously married to Gio, Henry, Daniel and be single.  And that is just one part of the &#8220;life&#8221; of one character.</p>
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		<title>By: Beatrice B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beatrice B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liu, I don&#039;t think writers wrote season 2 pro Getty. I perhaps you mean the love triangle which was mostly pro Benry and the whole Baby drama. Just check the history of this blog for example and notice the Getties getting crushed whenever we tried to say that Gio was written to be the love interest of Betty. Up until about half we were the minority that supported an &quot;unpopular&quot; character.

I don`t think they alienated the other characters, either. On the contrary... they just wrote TOO  MUCH for too many new characters. Too many unrelated plots in each single episode. There were plenty of individual side stories season 2: Betty love life, Amanda quest for her father, Daniel vs Alexis battle, Wilhelmina leaving Mode, Claire/Bradford/Willy, Marc/Cliff, etc etc etc.

And I don&#039;t get why is all the fuss... I don&#039;t think there&#039;s nothing wrong about trying to get the show to notice that by keeping Freddy Rodriguez character Gio the show would get more ratings than if he isn&#039;t in it.  What is so wrong about us promoting our ship? The others shippers shall also do their work like us so the show keeps alive, don&#039;t you think? If we, Getties, are louder now it&#039;s because the others are silent.
So instead of bashing those who are doing a decent (and quite polite) work in the net why don&#039;t you all step up and raise your voice &quot;marc, mandy, willie, christina, suarez family fans and shippers’ throughout&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liu, I don&#8217;t think writers wrote season 2 pro Getty. I perhaps you mean the love triangle which was mostly pro Benry and the whole Baby drama. Just check the history of this blog for example and notice the Getties getting crushed whenever we tried to say that Gio was written to be the love interest of Betty. Up until about half we were the minority that supported an &#8220;unpopular&#8221; character.</p>
<p>I don`t think they alienated the other characters, either. On the contrary&#8230; they just wrote TOO  MUCH for too many new characters. Too many unrelated plots in each single episode. There were plenty of individual side stories season 2: Betty love life, Amanda quest for her father, Daniel vs Alexis battle, Wilhelmina leaving Mode, Claire/Bradford/Willy, Marc/Cliff, etc etc etc.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t get why is all the fuss&#8230; I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s nothing wrong about trying to get the show to notice that by keeping Freddy Rodriguez character Gio the show would get more ratings than if he isn&#8217;t in it.  What is so wrong about us promoting our ship? The others shippers shall also do their work like us so the show keeps alive, don&#8217;t you think? If we, Getties, are louder now it&#8217;s because the others are silent.<br />
So instead of bashing those who are doing a decent (and quite polite) work in the net why don&#8217;t you all step up and raise your voice &#8220;marc, mandy, willie, christina, suarez family fans and shippers’ throughout&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: waiching liu</title>
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		<dc:creator>waiching liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one thing i don&#039;t want to happen is for this show to get cancelled. i&#039;d be gutted if this ever happened. as far as i see it, i see ugly betty to last for 3 more seasons after this one and then it will probably be it. i think that is a reasonable length for the series to last. however, i want the characters and their situations to be developed and explored fully- not just gio and betty and i don&#039;t want betty&#039;s storylines, even though she is the main character to dominate the show so much the other characters are neglected or ignored, as a result. 

michael has a point though-for me, you can ship who you want, when you want- but if ever this show gets cancelled, it is not because viewers deserted this show because they didn&#039;t get to see their ship, it is because that standards of this show have slipped. and there was plenty of evidence in season 2 that suggested that whilst it attracted plenty of getty fans, it and its writers singlehandlely alienated and shoved the other fans who ship daniel amanda, marc, willie etc to one side, in favour of meeting the needs of the getty fans. 

as i said i loved the first 3 episodes of season 3- but this show is in danger of getting axed, if it doesn&#039;t step up to the plate and cater for every single UB fan- and by that i mean betty, gio, marc, mandy, daniel, getty, willie, christina, suarez family fans and shippers&#039; throughout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one thing i don&#8217;t want to happen is for this show to get cancelled. i&#8217;d be gutted if this ever happened. as far as i see it, i see ugly betty to last for 3 more seasons after this one and then it will probably be it. i think that is a reasonable length for the series to last. however, i want the characters and their situations to be developed and explored fully- not just gio and betty and i don&#8217;t want betty&#8217;s storylines, even though she is the main character to dominate the show so much the other characters are neglected or ignored, as a result. </p>
<p>michael has a point though-for me, you can ship who you want, when you want- but if ever this show gets cancelled, it is not because viewers deserted this show because they didn&#8217;t get to see their ship, it is because that standards of this show have slipped. and there was plenty of evidence in season 2 that suggested that whilst it attracted plenty of getty fans, it and its writers singlehandlely alienated and shoved the other fans who ship daniel amanda, marc, willie etc to one side, in favour of meeting the needs of the getty fans. </p>
<p>as i said i loved the first 3 episodes of season 3- but this show is in danger of getting axed, if it doesn&#8217;t step up to the plate and cater for every single UB fan- and by that i mean betty, gio, marc, mandy, daniel, getty, willie, christina, suarez family fans and shippers&#8217; throughout.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomatish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomatish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure no one wants to see UB die as a show just because they don&#039;t get what they want ship-wise. I most certainly don&#039;t. 
Most Getty fans I know are UB fans as well as Freddy Roderiguez fans and we all know Freddy is an awesome actor and will only add positively to the show no matter what kind of story line he&#039;s involved in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure no one wants to see UB die as a show just because they don&#8217;t get what they want ship-wise. I most certainly don&#8217;t.<br />
Most Getty fans I know are UB fans as well as Freddy Roderiguez fans and we all know Freddy is an awesome actor and will only add positively to the show no matter what kind of story line he&#8217;s involved in.</p>
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		<title>By: Beatrice B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beatrice B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael don&#039;t be so mean to us. Actually, all in all,  shippers do well for any type of show. We create sites, activate blogs, find info and post them... we help news providers, we make buzz and that is for free! And I mean all shippers: Detties, Benries and Getties... all have their sites and blogs and well... check how famous the three shippers commenter made Tom when he was in that former Blog contest marathon. 

Another thing --&gt; we are cute X3. 
Okay that wan&#039;t a valid argument. But come on. You love us... otherwise blogs would be really dull sometimes. What&#039;s wrong with a little fight of wits every now and then? 

your quote: &quot;Instead, get your old tapes/DVDs and put them on rewind so you can swoon over Gio. (And naturally, I’m sure some of you have already done that more than once - especially late at night. LOL.)&quot;
HELLS YEAH I HAVE! you should try it too. :D 

You see? we also contribute to the show by buying their original DVDs at their expensive prices because... we are die-hard obsessed freaks... win-win situation. Except for our wallets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael don&#8217;t be so mean to us. Actually, all in all,  shippers do well for any type of show. We create sites, activate blogs, find info and post them&#8230; we help news providers, we make buzz and that is for free! And I mean all shippers: Detties, Benries and Getties&#8230; all have their sites and blogs and well&#8230; check how famous the three shippers commenter made Tom when he was in that former Blog contest marathon. </p>
<p>Another thing &#8211;&gt; we are cute X3.<br />
Okay that wan&#8217;t a valid argument. But come on. You love us&#8230; otherwise blogs would be really dull sometimes. What&#8217;s wrong with a little fight of wits every now and then? </p>
<p>your quote: &#8220;Instead, get your old tapes/DVDs and put them on rewind so you can swoon over Gio. (And naturally, I’m sure some of you have already done that more than once &#8211; especially late at night. LOL.)&#8221;<br />
HELLS YEAH I HAVE! you should try it too. <img src='http://crushable.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>You see? we also contribute to the show by buying their original DVDs at their expensive prices because&#8230; we are die-hard obsessed freaks&#8230; win-win situation. Except for our wallets.</p>
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		<title>By: wooster</title>
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		<dc:creator>wooster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, to continue gloating, I didn&#039;t have to look at other pictures or videos to predict it correctly. I know Gio&#039;s tendency to be perceptive and wise. I also know Daniel and Betty&#039;s tendency to argue and talk without thinking. The composition of the photo told me everything else I needed to know. ;)

Secondly, my intentions were to tease Tom. Nothing more. 

Lastly, does everything I say have to be turned into a shipping war? I really don&#039;t mean to start all of these fights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, to continue gloating, I didn&#8217;t have to look at other pictures or videos to predict it correctly. I know Gio&#8217;s tendency to be perceptive and wise. I also know Daniel and Betty&#8217;s tendency to argue and talk without thinking. The composition of the photo told me everything else I needed to know. <img src='http://crushable.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Secondly, my intentions were to tease Tom. Nothing more. </p>
<p>Lastly, does everything I say have to be turned into a shipping war? I really don&#8217;t mean to start all of these fights.</p>
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