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Wed, Oct 15 2008

Brad and Angelina – The kids and the paparazzi

It’s been awhile since we’ve had a discussion thread, don’t you think? With the new interviews and articles released since the Changeling premiere, I thought we could talk about something we’ve brought up in comments here and there before – the paparazzi and the kids.

I was particularly struck by two comments that Angelina made which were highlighted on I’m Not Obsessed.

One was when Angelina Jolie mentioned how they find places where they can be a normal family:

“Usually, places where there are other parents with children are okay – other parents are much more respectful of our privacy than many people because they understand what it’s like just to want to be with your kids. Parents are much kinder to us than some other members of the public.”

That makes so much sense to me. I know non-parents could also have respect and understanding about when it is and is not okay to start screaming, “Brad! Angie!” like a crazy person. In line at a premiere by the red carpet? Okay, scream! At a park with a bunch of kids, including the Jolie-Pitt kids? Not okay!

Then there was the quote which I mentioned in a previous post, as to how they explain the paparazzi to the kids anyway. Which is an important detail, but while Brad and Angelina are huge celebrities to us, they’re just Mom and Dad to their kids.

“When the kids ask us why people are taking our pictures, we say, ‘Mommy and Daddy make movies and that’s why some people want to know about us.’ We want to make sure that they know there’s nothing special or different about us – it is just a fact of our lives that we happen to make movies so people want to take our pictures.”

Now, here’s what I want to discuss. Despite their massive fame, it has always seemed to me that Brad and Angelina do everything they can to provide a stable family life for their kids and are doing their best to raise them with respect and love. And yet every time they step out the door with their kids, people in droves have something negative to say.

So why is it that Brad and Angelina get all the negativity but other celebrity parents do not? I almost never hear the same kind of snipes thrown at Jennifer Garner when she’s out with Violet Affleck. Madonna can take Lourdes out with her and that’s not considered a publicity stunt or throwing her daughter to the wolves. People are worried about the Scientology aspect, but beyond that, people are thrilled to see Katie Holmes and Suri Cruise out and about. Gwen Stefani is seen with Kingston Rossdale and that’s just fine, everyone loves that!

Why is everyone else getting a free pass but Brad and Angelina don’t? Discuss!

(It should be noted that no celebrity children can escape people with a lack of class. You should see some of the awful things people write about Violet and Lourdes, physically speaking. It’s mind-blowing how adults can still be just as cruel as kids in school yards.)

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Comments

  1. By Lara

    Tina, I think that she indeed was saying that they fell in love for real, not only in the movie, but that is not the same with having intimate relations while Brad was still married. They’ve always said that they had a special connection, talked a lot and realized that they have common dreams in life. And feelings develop that way. They admit it. But they have also said that nothing physical has happened until the divorce was final. As for the haters it is what they’ve waited for. Another reason to throw stones.

  2. By Neela

    Sherry, I realize I sound like I’m demanding you to clear my post through. Heh. I meant to I promise this is the last time I’ll ask you to push my post through ;)

    It all goes back to that issue about words being misinterpreted online.

  3. By Neela

    Hi, Sherry, last time I’ll ask. My post is in moderation … Thanks.

    Btw, Karli, see, even my post gets moderated. You’re not being singled out.

  4. By Neela

    Karli, I’m not attacking you personally. I’m challenging your post. You’ve your opinion, and I have mine. And I’m sorry, but what you stated is along the same lines as the haters. It’s nothing new. You can claim not to be a hater, but you certainly aren’t one of the fond ones either.

    What I don’t get is you clearly aren’t fond of the the Jolie-Pitts, but you go out of your way to post about them. Hmmm.

    And look, your dissenting opinion was posted.

    Again, Angie and Brad aren’t complaining. And just to point out, you pointed me to a link that quoted an unnamed source (who might as well be a bellboy or cabbie or any person) from a TAB. Um, yeah. Hmmm, I would take that with a very large grain of salt. Thanks for taking the time to go out of your way to try and prove me wrong. But no such luck.

  5. By Sherry

    Karli – Before you start calling me pathetic you might want to go and take a look back. Your previous two comments are published. People sometimes get caught in the moderation queue.

    Since I’m an actual person and not a robot, I can not manually push through every single moderated comment the second that it happens. I am not always sitting here in front of the site working on it. I am a mother of two children, I have a husband, and I have a dog. They all require my attention as well. I also work full time as a freelancer which keeps me busy. On top of that, I have a social life, hobbies, and a need to sleep. I can not watch comments 24 hours a day.

  6. By Karli

    I don’t know who controls this blog, but it’s really a shame that the only people you post, are the only (15) people that actually read this pathetic sight. I’ve left numerous posts (my opinions, not hateful, but nonetheless my opinion), but if it’s ANYTHING at all besides what you want to hear, you nix it. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Now I see why you have 123 comments, made by the same (15) bloggers…all the time! If you’re going to run a blog, you should run EVERYONE’S opinions, and not just those that you think are ACCEPTABLE. You’re pathetic!

  7. By joliepittfanatic

    Neela’s right, they’ve never actually complained about the paps. In fact, Brad has even said that he understands that the paps have a job to do. What they HAVE done is said that they wish the paps would use long lenses and not get right up in the kids’ faces. They have every right to ask for that much! They have NEVER once said they wish the paps would stop taking pictures of them.

    And please, they hardly “flaunt” their kids whenever they have a movie to promote. In fact, as far as I know, this is the first time they’ve done a photoshoot with the kids when either one of them has had a movie to promote.

    Other than that, the only photoshoots they’ve done with the kids are:

    -The first pictures of Shiloh

    -Pictures of the entire family (which, at the time, consisted of Angie, Brad, Mad, Zee, and Shi) when they visited Cambodia in December of 2006.

    -The first pictures of Pax

    -The first pictures of Knox and Viv

  8. By Karli

    Neela…

    Just stating my opinion..not a hater, just an observer. Check this link out…these two have been complaining since day 1, but now that Changeling is coming out, they want all the press in the world..just my opinion..

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Brad-Pitt-Got-Fed-Up-With-Paparazzi-6289.shtml

  9. By Neela

    Ah, I’ve never heard the Brange complain about the paps. If they did, it wasn’t much. The only time that raised much concern for the family was when a pap, in camouflage gear with some very heavy equipment, trespassed himself at their property in Miraval. In a few interviews, she was asked about what she thought of the paps. She was asked. She didn’t bring it up, the interviewer did. Puhlease, there are plenty of other celebs who have courted the paps but at the same time, shown their frustration towards them, need we say Lindsay, Britney, etc.

  10. By Ligaya

    I posted excerpts from new interview with critic Peter Travers (I think with Rolling Stone) for ABC News on the “Today Show” thread – includes how she protects the kids from tabloid stuff.

  11. By Ligaya

    I know you’d do the same for me. Take your time to do what you need to do. It’s a very great loss.

  12. By Neela

    Lucy, it’s no prob. I hope you’re doing okay. :)

  13. By Neela

    Hi, Sherry, this is my first time asking … could you please clear my last post, acknowledging Ligaya and Cristina? Thanks.

  14. By Lucy

    Thanks Ligaya. Too bad we don’t have HBO but I plan to see her movie when it hits the theatres here may be Oct 24th or Nov 1st. I want to send a heartfelt thank you Neela, Angela, Irma and BlessBrangelina for your caring and friendship for Mom’s memory. I am keeping myself busy by reading all the interesting comments here. Bless you all.

  15. By Tina

    Wow, finally someone talking about the fact Angie mentioned something about the kids watching a movie where they fell in love. First of all, I saw this on AOL Entertainment and there were about 900 comments on it (mostly Angelina haters). Tried to comment on it but would not let men enter it for some reason is. My point is this whole thing got twisted and all. My interpretation of that statement is that they fell in love in the movie, not in real life. I mean am I the only one who sees it that way? Does anyone else think that that this quote has gotten out of hand? Do you really think that Angelina would just blurt out, oh yeah we fell in love during that movie? Oh well, I really just feel strongly about this and have really boggled my mind about how many things can be misinterpreted. More love and blessings to AJ and BP and to their family!

  16. By Lara

    Ligaya, I loved your post about working parents. Great! About the article “She’s Actually Smart”, when I saw the title I was about to say a few things to the writer :P, but then I read it and I calmed down a bit more ’cause it’s really nice. I still think the title it’s a shame to the person that write the article. Also, lately, reading comments about Angie on different sites, I’ve noticed that people, slowly, become aware of how Angie really is, of her work and realize that she is honest in what she does. I hope things will improve in time.
    ps: If the jolie pitts don’t do everything possible for the well being of the family, I don’t know who does.

  17. By Ligaya

    ***CORRECTION*** & REMINDER -

    CHANGELING ALERT:

    HBO will have “First Look: Changeling” TOMORROW, TUESDAY, OCTOBER 21, 2008.
    HBO-W 7:15 pm PT
    HBO-E 4:15 pm PT.

    On my Dish satellite HBO’s various channels start at 300.

    “First Look” is usually airs several times on HBO’s different channels. It’s a behind the scenes look on set on the shoot, new & different mini-interviews with Clintalina.

  18. By Ligaya

    Not as bad as I was afraid it would be -

    http://thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-10-19/shes-actually-smart/

    “She’s Actually Smart”

  19. By Ligaya

    The Jolie-Pitt Foundation sponsored an international law & justice symposium at the Council on Foreign Relations. These are excerpts from Angelina’s kickass speech.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bS7cwgVZH4

  20. By Karli

    One of the reasons they get attacked so often, is because they’re always COMPLAINING about the paparazzi, and how they want to be left alone, but as soon as either of them have a movie coming out, they’re all over the news. THEN they want their pics taken, they want interviews on T.V. and they flaunt their children in front of the camera. You can’t have it both ways, either you want to be left alone, or you don’t. These other stars don’t bash and complain about privacy issues always, like Brad and Angie do. Brad and Angie only want cameras around when it’s convenient for them. I’ve never ONCE heard Gwen Steffani COMPLAIN about paparazzi or pics taken of her…..can’t say the same for these (2)…