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I want to preface this post by saying that I had no intentions of writing about this topic, mainly because this is a Brad Pitt and Angeline Jolie website. It is not, on the other hand, a Jennifer Aniston site. While she was married to Brad for a long time, she is not a part of his life anymore and I have little reason to write about her; that goes all ways. I don’t make a habit of writing about Gwyneth Paltrow, Juliette Lewis, Billy Bob Thorton, or anyone else they were involved with. I write about Brad Pitt, I write about Angelina Jolie, and I write about things that involve the two of them.
However, I can’t remember the last time I’ve had my inbox overflowing. So many people have emailed me to ask what I think of the new Vogue cover where Jennifer Aniston declares that Angelina Jolie was “very uncool” in regards to her comments to Vogue a year or so earlier when she said that she couldn’t wait to get to work on the set of Mr. & Mrs. Smith.
I am so hesitant to delve into this topic because I don’t want a war to explode in my comments, but ask and ye shall receive. Let’s discuss it then.
In the new December 2008 issue of Vogue, Jennifer Aniston was asked, point blank, her thoughts on Angeline Jolie. Never mind the fact that I think the article’s author really needs to let go of news that is four years old, but Jennifer did respond to some of the questions.
On being bothered that Angelina recounted a detailed timeline of how she fell in love with Brad Pitt on the set of Mr. & Mrs. Smith: “There was stuff printed there that was definitely from a time when I was unaware that it was happening. I felt those details were a little inappropriate to discuss. That stuff about how she couldn’t wait to get to work every day? That was really uncool.
On if she ever speaks to Brad: “[We've exchanged] a few very kind hellos … and congratulations on your babies… [We] had an amicable split … The marriage didn’t work out.”
People have emailed me to ask how I feel about it. Well, really, how should I feel about it? I’m not involved in any way, I don’t know every detail, I don’t know what happened behind closed doors. I’ll tell you what I believe though.
1. I believe that Brad and Angelina truly did not become involved intimately while he was still married to Jennifer. When they separated, yes, but when they were still fully wed, I truly do believe that there was nothing physical. If you look at photos from the Mr. & Mrs. Smith premiere, they don’t even stand and pose together like co-stars usually do. To me, that’s striking – they were avoiding being together in any way at all.
2. I believe they fell in love while they worked together. And you know what? It happens. You can’t help who you fall in love with and you can’t dictate when it happens. People fall in love with other people all the time and it’s usually beyond your control. What they COULD control was whether they acted – officially – on it. And you can see point one on that – I don’t think they did. But regardless of how much you can control what you do and do not do, you can’t control what you do and do not feel.
3. I believe that Brad and Jennifer’s marriage was doomed to fail. Regardless of Angelina’s existence, I don’t believe that marriage would have lasted even if Mr. & Mrs. Smith had never happened. If their marriage was strong it would have been moot. If there were problems below the surface, they weren’t because of Angelina.
4. I believe that Jennifer Aniston has every right to feel the way she does – as I said, you can’t always control what you feel. I don’t believe anyone can “steal” someone’s husband or wife – they aren’t property, they’re people who make choices. But either way, Jennifer lost her husband when they separated and subsequently divorced. She lost someone she loved very much. In the real, non-Hollywood world, if you don’t have children you can divorce someone and pretend they don’t exist, but Brad and Angelina are A-list celebrities on the cover of countless magazines and on websites. It would be hard for her to ignore their relationship unless she lived in the woods for a few years.
I get Jennifer’s position. I really do. I think that if she wants to move on – as she has hinted in the past – that she may have been wiser to refuse to discuss it. But, again, you can’t always control how you feel. She’s a human being just like all of us and she was hurt. I’ve been hurt. You’ve probably been hurt too. It’s not a great feeling to have your feelings hurt or your heart broken.
So there you go. In answer to the question as to how I feel about this new Vogue cover and interview… well I feel ambivalent mostly because I don’t think it’s news, and I don’t think she’s wrong to be hurt by what Angelina said – just like I don’t think it’s wrong that Brad Pitt and Angelina fell in love, stood back and waited, and then acted on it when the marriage ended.
I apologize, I am coming down with yet another cold and I’m hoping that this post isn’t disjointed as a result, but I think that it captures the essence of my feelings on this long-drawn-out triangle.
Since I was asked to discuss it, I ask you to discuss it too. However, as always I request respect. Please respect me, respect this site, respect each other, respect Brad and Angelina, and yes – respect Jennifer Aniston too. Debate is always okay as long as it’s not nasty or meant strictly to bait nastiness. I’ve never kept it a secret that I also like Jennifer. I’m a bigger fan of Angelina and of Brad, but I never missed a single episode of Friends and I’ve seen most of her movies. And like I mentioned – she’s still a human being with feelings no matter what your opinion of her is.
So let’s discuss the article, but let’s keep it clean and respectable like we always do!
Ready, set, go!
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667 days ago
I dont think Jen said sitting down for this interview for her film, let me go on the record. The interviewer asked her, they know this will see copies. what is pretty sad that years later the fans still care and B&A fans still care about Jen that part I do not get. IMO those are the ones that are not over it, which is strange they should be find. B&A are together with a family but they love to hate Jen because she was married to Brad. I feel sorry for Jen that she will always be linked to this sagga.
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667 days ago
Neela
Jennifer’s saying she doesnt want to be a victim might be taken more seriously by me if she had made the choice of not commenting so negatively. Doesn’t anyone find it interesting that her words which include Angelina’s name are right next to JA’s head on the cover?
I find it absolutely calculating and low blow and counter to her claims of wanting others not to feel bad for her.
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667 days ago
what’s aniston without angelina jolie? what would be put on her covers? people feeling ’sorry’ for her is the reason why mags like vogue stir up the triangle, they want sales. i mean how much more self-promotion to vogue want, aniston has a cover which refers to a jolie interview that was in …… VOGUE MAGAZINE. they must be loving it. i hope angelina never does a vogue interview again.
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667 days ago
niemiec idiota
Me too. I think as soon as the divorce was decided on, IT was on. I don’t get why anyone would automatically assume falling in love signals physical intimacy. Her saying it’s were it began means just that and doesn’t propose more.
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667 days ago
Sherry
Is the post from earlier thats awaiting moderation to long? Do I need to edit it down?
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667 days ago
LOL. How Jennifer contradicted herself in her Vanity Fair 2005 and Vogue 2008? Angie and Jen can say whatever they want in their intervies. Jen slamed Brad&Angie in 2005 Vanity interview but neither Brad nor Angie said that Jen was so uncool. Vogue 2008 interview show that Jen is obsessed with JP and she follows what they did. Sorry for her. She has a new relationship but she still talks about her divorce. The funny part of her interview she talks nicely about Brad. Sorry I can’t get it? I remember Jen was married with Brad not Angie. This means that she loves the stupid love triangle and she loves to be POOR JEN.
Lastly, I want to say that nobady knows what happened between Jen&Brad&Angie. So, I don’t believe everyting what they said in their interviews. But I know that Brad&Jen was not the only HW couple who were divorced and I don’t understand how can we still talk about this divorce.
Angelina will never change most probably she will continue to talk about her life and it seems that Jen will also never change and she will continue to talk about her divorce to promote her films.
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667 days ago
Vogue’s sales were down 15% recently , and within that context I fault more a magazine that in order to sell obviously does not mind stooping as low (with a glossier facade) as the In Styles or Stars or Hellos by being unable to interview Ms Aniston without mentioning the Jolie-Pitts. I believe a comment says more about the person voicing it than the one being commented upon, so if (a big If) her comments were indeed expressed that way and were not taken out of context, they are not about what Angelina or Brad have said /say or are doing – (they obviously have moved on ) they simply show a woman who loved, was hurt and is still angry at her “rival” after 4 years, thanks in part to the media that , like a dog to a bone, is unwilling to let go of the salacious (albeit moldy and somewhat crumbling) good girl /husband/ temptress story.
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667 days ago
Sherry, I totally agree with you that it would be wonderful if they all had a great relationship like Demi-Ashton and Bruce. The only thing is, it take a lot of maturity to have that kind of relationship. A lot of love, forgiveness and good intentions. Now this is speculation and I hate doing this but I think that Brad does not want them to meet since he knows Aniston too well and how she would react. I mean this is how she is reacting based on what she’s reading, how else would she be face to face? I hope Aniston finds peace and heals her wounded heart before it ruins her. I hope she finds a good man soon.
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667 days ago
There is only one thing that is important at this point Jen and Brad didn’t have children that this will effect. AJ and Brad do. Jen needs to think of the children and how her comments will effect them. If Brad and Jen had a child I would be saying the same thing about AJ. But they didn’t so end of conversation.
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667 days ago
The X has a movie to promote & what a nice thing to woke up from amnesia after 4 years that she has been dumped by Brad for Angie ( an A lister star & humanitarian ). The X is just desperate to be on the limelight again. Too bad for her going on 40 in 2 months doesn’t help her either so she is coatailling with Brad & Angie popularity. She is nobody without Brad & Angie.
God bless the Jolie-Pitt’s.
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667 days ago
It’s hard to deal with in Jen’s case, but at some point you have to stop torturing yourself. Maybe the marriage was not over in Jen mind,as it was already over in Brad’s mind, sometimes the other party make decisions for themself, by themself in the middle of the night without the other knowing how they feel. Brad and Jen have always look boring togather they were never a true match, may be he relalize it and made his heart open to fall in love with someone else. My QUESTION IS WHY NOW, when everyone seem to have moved forward, what was the motive behind it all, was it to promote a movie, to sell mag on the interviewer part, or just to put another bad spin on the Bermuda Triangle that
she so never wanted to be part of, then if you don’t want to be a part of it why answer the question, Just say we have all move on. MAY be she is still bitter that Angie has found the right man only that she had him fisrt and made a fool of it.
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667 days ago
Angelina is not responsible for Jennifer Aniston’s Happiness!
My relationship with my husband is between myself and my husband. The “contract” is not with a “third party” and that “third party’ (if there was one) is not responsible to me or to “contract” between my husband and myself.
I told my husband when I met him what my “rules” were for me – because we all have free choice.
One of my rules for me was – I date exclusively “one on one” from the beginning. That rule applied to me, I didn’t impose it on him or ask him to change for me – either you agree or you don’t – and if you don’t – my attitude was “let’s not waste each others time” even for a first date.
To let you know, I was instantly attracted to my husband (it is the strongest attraction I have ever experienced – it was almost unreal – the chemistry was and still is very very intense) and when he asked me out I asked him if he had girl(s) he was dating – he told me in so many words that he did (lat least two – both who knew about the other and were “good with it” – that to me, were his “contracts” with each of them ). So I turned him down (and it was very hard to say “no thank you”) and I let him know of my “rules” for dating and said no more – I don’t believe I have to explain my rules for my own life.
By his choice, it took my husband one and a half weeks to settle his dating life (he had one ex, who kept calling him and he had to make it clear that it was over – she let him know that she would be there for him if he and I didn’t work-out). (And for me – it would not be my business who he ended up with if our “contract” ends – I would just hope it would be someone who likes kids)
I describe this to say that I had/have no responsibility to my husband’s ex(s) – I didn’t know them – he was responsible to them not me – I was not there when or whatever agreement/contract he may have made with them. It was his prerogative on what he wanted to do – I only knew what I would accept for me and my life. I didn’t seduce him, I didn’t convince him, I didn’t trick him – all I said was “no thank you – I only date exclusively – one on one”
Brad ended his “contract” with Jennifer Aniston based on what he wanted to do – he’s a big boy who got into his relationship with JA and got out when he felt he wanted to. How does BP and JA’s relationship become the responsibility of Angelina? It was none of AJ business, she had no authority over that relationship therefore no power to end it – she was not a governing entity who came in and said the “contract” between BP and JA was null and void. Only BP and JA are responsible for the end of that “contract”.
I think I remember from the JA Vanity Fair article where she talked about how BP wanted to “find himself” and she was okay with that but BP thought he couldn’t do that within their marriage – well – I guess it wouldn’t surprise me if AJ had told BP that she doesn’t date married men – and would it be so wrong for AJ to have that particular “rule” for herself and her life?
Sorry for such a long post.
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667 days ago
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667 days ago
i honestly adore Jolie-Pitt they are my fav couples in the world and i will always do :D
But that doesn’t mean that i should hate Jen.
i like Jen so much she’s a great actress and i love friends alot and i think alot of JP lovers love watching friends too.
i agree with everything you said Sherry.
Jen was hurt.
But that doesn’t mean that Brad wasn’t hurt too.
(no1 knows if he was hurt or not)
i wasnt living in there house to see what was really going on.
Maybe they were fighting alot before Mr. and Mrs. smith and they will end up their relationship anyways and move on with their life.
Maybe one of them couldnt stand the other one but he or she didnt want to say it to the whole world bcoz they respect each other. so they are keeping it to themselves.
I will always love them (Brad,Angie & Jen) :D
they have moved on and we all should do the same.
Jen’s now rumored to be with John Mayer. So that means she moved on.
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667 days ago
what concerns me is why you women feel the need to blame her still? if you all and JP family have moved on why does it bother you what she says or feels? if people ask you questions you answer, just as Angie answers … so Angie can be upfront and Jen cannot? why such the double standard? angie changed her story many times as well. 1st she was just knocked up then she said she they planned it … which is? Angie will always have JA in her life that is what happens when you step into someones life that already had a whole life going on. Brad seems to get out jail free card on this.
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667 days ago
btw JA asked for the divorce BP was not man enuf to do that part he waited for her to do that, if he was a real man he would of came to her said it was over and i want a divorce instead he let her take the beating for what he choose to do … shame shame that all you women pit against one another truly shameful. you all could learn something from sherry
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667 days ago
Serious, I agree with you to an extent, but I think it’s the FANS ON BOTHS SIDES that rehash the past. Come on, to this day, I still read comments from naysayers, villifying Angie for her missteps in the past–i.e. her past drug use. They refused to believe that the woman can change. It’s not one-sided. Both groups have a propensity to drag on 2005 or whatever else is in the past to justify why Angie or Jen are not likeable in their eyes.
As I said, the situation is what it is now. No more rewind. So, let’s just wish them all the best.
For the most part, it is the media–the tabs and these magazines–that still try to bring it to the forefront. There are plenty of us that would just rather see the lid closed on this, but even when we don’t hear a word from these three celebrities, we see tabloids make up headlines and stories.
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667 days ago
I’m under mod.
Serious, I agree with you to an extent. But, BOTH SIDES OF THE FANHOOD play the blame game. And please, don’t generalize. With all due respect, NOT ALL OF US FANS blame Jen. Okay?
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667 days ago
Serious, in my opinion, it’s more shameful that women tend to blame other women and let the guy get the pass. That’s what some of us have been driving at in our comments. I wish you would read some of our comments. Some of us think Brad shouldn’t get the pass.
And I disagree. Angie did not just step into Brad’s life. Brad had a choice. He is an adult. In the end, he chose to split from Jen and be with another woman. Please. Remember, Brad and Angie have a life together now, and Jen has her own blissful life. So, I don’t see how Angie is stepping in when Jen is not part of their lives?
One was before, and the other is after/current. Even Jen said they had an amicable split, meaning, they have separate lives now, so, nobody stepped in. Brad’s life with Angie is not a continuation of his time with Jen. It’s a whole different life.
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667 days ago
When I hear the reasoning that Angie stepped in to somebody else’s life (in this case Jen), it just says to me how much some of you are willing to protract 2005 and the triangle that WAS. As I said, Brad’s life and family with Angie is not a continuation of his time with Jen. Jen has shown she is capable of carving out a happy life for herself, separate from Brad. Please, stop the madness that was 4 years ago.
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