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Gilmore Girls 7.21 "Unto the Breach"
Original Air Date: May 8, 2007
Discussion Date: August 12, 2008
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Discussion Questions:
- Why is Lorelai embarrassed about singing to Luke?
- Do you think Lorelai is ok with Logan proposing to Rory?
- Is Lorelai unsure what Rory would say to Logan, is that why she’s anxious?
- Do you think Luke believes Lorelai’s song was "no big deal"?
- Do you think if Lorelai loved Luke she’d tell him? Or is it up to Luke to move first?
- Is Luke ready to get back together with Lorelai? Does Liz help him realize that?
- Can you imagine Paris backpacking in India?
- Do you think Paris will ever be less intense?
- Why does Lorelai tell Babette & Miss Patty the serenade meant nothing?
- Why does Luke believe what he overhears, that the serenade was nothing?
- Is Luke mad that Lorelai’s gesture was (perhaps) not real?
- Why do people of Stars Hollow assume they’ll be at Rory’s Yale graduation if they were not at the Chilton one?
- In the diner, was Lorelai trying to test Luke to see if he had any response to her gesture, whether authentic or not?
- Why isn’t Lorelai excited that the town wants to throw Rory a party?
- Why does the town want to re-enact Rory’s graduation?
- Do you find it odd that we didn’t have any scenes of Emily planning Rory’s party?
- Are you surprised that the meeting between Christopher & Lorelai went so well?
- Does Christ feel left out that Logan asked Lorelai for permission to propose?
- Do you think Chris wants Rory to marry Logan? Why?
- Why is Lorelai terrified about Rory growing up?
- Were Rory & Lorelai more touched than they expected by the song?
- Does Logan realize Chris should be a part of the proposal, when he asks him to stay?
- Why does Logan ask Rory to marry him at this particular party? What does that say?
- What do you think of Logan’s proposal?
- Did putting Rory on the spot like that make her answer less likely to be "yes"?
- Why didn’t Logan tell Rory about getting his job before now?
- What does Rory mean when she says "it’s not the size of the gesture. It’s the gesture itself."?
- Why did Logan assume a proposal in front of the whole family was the ideal gesture?
- Rory has talked about marrying Logan before, so why does she seem so alarmed that he’s put thought into this?
- Logan says that when business was up the air, he knew he’d be ok so long as he had Rory. Then why didn’t he confide in her during that time?
- Does Logan expect Rory to give up her choices as a journalist to come live with him?
- Should Logan have involved Rory in his decision to take this job? In his research on a place to live, etc?
- Do you think Rory wants to say yes to Logan? Would she have said yes, if he had proposed differently?
- Do you think Rory is the kind of person to make quick decisions? Or is this something that requires her pro/con list?
- Does Chris feel like Lorelai & Rory need some alone time, after the proposal?
- Is Rory making excuses to herself about her hesitation?
- Why does Rory want Lorelai to tell her what to do?
- Does Logan’s proposal mean that, if Rory says no, their relationship is over? Does it have to be? Why?
- Do you think Lorelai is worried that Rory will take after her and not be able to commit to a relationship?
- Is Lorelai realizing that she can’t always be 100% sure in love? Is she ready to take that leap of faith with Luke?
- Does Luke realize he’s not ready? Is that why he doesn’t give Lorelai the necklace?
- Or, does Luke think that Lorelai had a moment to speak up to him and she didn’t?
- Rory smiles when she puts on the engagement ring – what does that mean?
- Why doesn’t Rory mention the proposal to any of her friends?
- Richard is the only one not too tense about Rory’s delay in the proposal – why?
- Does Rory perhaps feel that she’s not going "unto the breach" like Paris? That the proposal is too planned?
- Are you surprised that Richard steps up to handle the details for the re-enactment so Lorealai can enjoy her moment?
- Do you think Rory wants to stay with Logan, just not marry him yet?
- Why does Logan say it has to be all or nothing? Is his pride just wounded?
- When Logan left for a year, it wasn’t all or nothing. Why isn’t he willing to try that again?
- Do you think that Logan’s upbringing makes him used to people’s decisions fitting in with his own? Particularly from women?
- Do you think, with space, Logan would see the "point" of Rory’s decision?
- Why did Rory decide to talk with Logan about the proposal on her graduation day? Couldn’t she have waited to a more private time?
- Do Lorelai & Rory believe Logan was not the right person, because Rory hesitated?
- Is Rory proud of her decision, though? To have power over her own future?
- Is Rory ready to let go of all her old life at once, including Logan?
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I just need to say that I’ve always hated Logan and always will. He knew that becoming a journalist was Rory’s dream. He knew that she would need some time to relax after graduating YALE. He just wanted to marry her because he needed to go to California. But Rory is smarter than that. She had to focus on her own future. Logan and Rory’s relationship was like a roller-coaster ride anyway. In my opinion, Rory made the right decision.
Lorelai is terrified about Rory growing up because she’s a mom. She wants Rory to be her little girl forever. Personally, I feel the same way. If you’ve watched from the beginning, like I have, you watched Rory grow up. You’ve become attached to her and Lorelai’s relationship. You don’t want to let go either.
For me, when this show ended, it was like losing a whole other family. For some people, Gilmore girls is more than just a TV show. It’s a whole other world, where you know you are safe and will always be happy. And then when it finishes, you can’t accept the fact that it’s really over and all you have left are 7 years of memories.
HEY quick question i have been watching the videos from youtube that are in the video column with different songs with each video and i really love them and want to know if anyone knows how i can take those youtube videos and put them on my vodeo ipod??
Lorelai is embarassed about singing to Luke becasue she doesnt want to admit her feeli ngs to him staright up yet.
I think Lorelai is not ok with Logan proposing to Rory in only that she beleives they are too young to get married. Also in a way Lorelai is unsure about what Rory would say to Logan.
No, I beleive Luke knows that Lorelais song was a big deal but wants her to admit that it was.
No I think Lorelai is scared and does love him but doesnt want to tell him. At the same time Luke should make a move back after the song, but i can see why he hesitates because he beleives that Lorelai said it was no big deal so it wasnt.
Luke is ready to get back with lorelaii and liz helps him realize that.
Lorelai tells babette and miss patty the serenade was nothing to get them off her back because she wants to figure out her own feelings.
Why does Luke believe what he overhears, that the serenade was nothing?
because Lorelai said it and luke beleived it the way she said it
Is Luke mad that Lorelai’s gesture was (perhaps) not real?
I think he is more upset about it than mad
In the diner, was Lorelai trying to test Luke to see if he had any response to her gesture, whether authentic or not?
umm i dont think so i dont think she realized she could hear her when she said that because i think if she knew he could hear her, she wouldnt have said that.
Why is Lorelai terrified about Rory growing up?
because then rory is moving on away from lorelai
Is Lorelai realizing that she can’t always be 100% sure in love? Is she ready to take that leap of faith with Luke?
YES
Does Luke realize he’s not ready? Is that why he doesn’t give Lorelai the necklace?
Or, does Luke think that Lorelai had a moment to speak up to him and she didn’t?
more the 2nd one
Lorelai is embarassed about singing to Luke becasue she doesnt want to admit her feeli ngs to him staright up yet.
I think Lorelai is not ok with Logan proposing to Rory in only that she beleives they are too young to get married. Also in a way Lorelai is unsure about what Rory would say to Logan.
No, I beleive Luke knows that Lorelais song was a big deal but wants her to admit that it was.
No I think Lorelai is scared and does love him but doesnt want to tell him. At the same time Luke should make a move back after the song, but i can see why he hesitates because he beleives that Lorelai said it was no big deal so it wasnt.
Luke is ready to get back with lorelaii and liz helps him realize that.
Lorelai tells babette and miss patty the serenade was nothing to get them off her back because she wants to figure out her own feelings.
Why does Luke believe what he overhears, that the serenade was nothing?
because Lorelai said it and luke beleived it the way she said it
Is Luke mad that Lorelai’s gesture was (perhaps) not real?
I think he is more upset about it than mad
In the diner, was Lorelai trying to test Luke to see if he had any response to her gesture, whether authentic or not?
umm i dont think so i dont think she realized she could hear her when she said that because i think if she knew he could hear her, she wouldnt have said that.
Why is Lorelai terrified about Rory growing up?
Were Rory & Lorelai more touched than they expected by the song?
Does Logan realize Chris should be a part of the proposal, when he asks him to stay?
Why does Logan ask Rory to marry him at this particular party? What does that say?
What do you think of Logan’s proposal?
Did putting Rory on the spot like that make her answer less likely to be “yes”?
Why didn’t Logan tell Rory about getting his job before now?
What does Rory mean when she says “it’s not the size of the gesture. It’s the gesture itself.”?
Why did Logan assume a proposal in front of the whole family was the ideal gesture?
Rory has talked about marrying Logan before, so why does she seem so alarmed that he’s put thought into this?
Logan says that when business was up the air, he knew he’d be ok so long as he had Rory. Then why didn’t he confide in her during that time?
Does Logan expect Rory to give up her choices as a journalist to come live with him?
Should Logan have involved Rory in his decision to take this job? In his research on a place to live, etc?
Do you think Rory wants to say yes to Logan? Would she have said yes, if he had proposed differently?
Do you think Rory is the kind of person to make quick decisions? Or is this something that requires her pro/con list?
Does Chris feel like Lorelai & Rory need some alone time, after the proposal?
Is Rory making excuses to herself about her hesitation?
Why does Rory want Lorelai to tell her what to do?
Does Logan’s proposal mean that, if Rory says no, their relationship is over? Does it have to be? Why?
Do you think Lorelai is worried that Rory will take after her and not be able to commit to a relationship?
Is Lorelai realizing that she can’t always be 100% sure in love? Is she ready to take that leap of faith with Luke?
Does Luke realize he’s not ready? Is that why he doesn’t give Lorelai the necklace?
Or, does Luke think that Lorelai had a moment to speak up to him and she didn’t?
Rory smiles when she puts on the engagement ring – what does that mean?
Why doesn’t Rory mention the proposal to any of her friends?
Richard is the only one not too tense about Rory’s delay in the proposal – why?
Does Rory perhaps feel that she’s not going “unto the breach” like Paris? That the proposal is too planned?
Are you surprised that Richard steps up to handle the details for the re-enactment so Lorealai can enjoy her moment?
Do you think Rory wants to stay with Logan, just not marry him yet?
Why does Logan say it has to be all or nothing? Is his pride just wounded?
When Logan left for a year, it wasn’t all or nothing. Why isn’t he willing to try that again?
Do you think that Logan’s upbringing makes him used to people’s decisions fitting in with his own? Particularly from women?
Do you think, with space, Logan would see the “point” of Rory’s decision?
Why did Rory decide to talk with Logan about the proposal on her graduation day? Couldn’t she have waited to a more private time?
Do Lorelai & Rory believe Logan was not the right person, because Rory hesitated?
Is Rory proud of her decision, though? To have power over her own future?
Is Rory ready to let go of all her old life at once, including Logan?