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Interesting Article About Valkyrie and New Trailer

This is supposedly a new trailer for Valkyrie, but I can’t actually watch the video. I am at the beach right now and my internet connection is horrendous, so you guys will have to tell me if it’s a new trailer or not.

(Side note: The article below is probably going to bring out some strong opinions and I want you to share them, but please do so with respect. If you disagree with someone’s opinion, that is perfectly fine, but I will delete any comments that are rude to each other or out of line against Tom Cruise and his family.)

Anyway, I just read an interesting article about Tom Cruise’s new movie Valkyrie. We all know there has been bad buzz about this movie from the very beginning. There was the whole issue with the German government about being able to shoot the movie where they wanted to. Supposedly they are not to thrilled about Tom Cruise and Scientology.

Then there were all the reshoots and the release date being moved again and again and again. The latest release date is February 13, 2009.

In the article I just read, the writer said that so far everything he has seen about this movie has been impressive. He says, “From the screenplay, to the first production photos which included a comparison shot of Tom Cruise against the real life Col. Claus von Stauffenberg, to the teaser trailer that was released a few months back.

He also mentions that even those bitter angry Variety readers (that comment made me laugh) have written, “several people I trust have seen VALKYRIE and testify that it’s a superb thriller. ‘Bryan Singer is back in form,’ says one source.

The comment that caught my attention the most was that the desire for this film to fail is MASSIVE. He could not be more right. I f someone else was behind this film, like maybe George Clooney, I truly believe there wouldn’t be this huge desire for the film to bomb. I think a lot of you would agree with me on that.

Here’s some advice from the article:

The desire for this film to be a failure is massive. Everyone has purchased a pair of hater pants from the anti-Tom Cruise store (metaphorically speaking, I hope). I think everyone needs to watch the Valkyrie movie trailer below, and form an opinion based on what is shown. Forget what you’ve read about the production, and put your passive aggressive Cruise-bashing feelings away.

Wow, those are some strong comments aren’t they? I am sure you will all have some interesting comments regarding this article. I have still not 100% decided if I will see this movie or not. Most likely I will because the whole Hitler subject is interesting to me, yet disgusting at the same time. I had the chance to visit the Auschwitz camp in Poland about 12 years ago and it was really an eye opener to see what the Jews went through.

So, who is going to see it? I am interested in hearing if you will or not and your reasons behind your decision. :D But, like I said, please be respectful to each other.

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  1. Lauren

    Con mom, if you saw pictures of Suri smiling and playing, am sure you would have something else to complain about. Like her parents are pimping her or she is spoilt or something.

    Bumble, I am not chasing you but you don’t have to post here you know. When I used to visit this site and find vile comments, I stayed away till things changed. That link you posted has people who you will love and maybe you will get your daily tomkat update with some hate flavour thrown in. Yummy!

  2. Tia

    OMG!

  3. Tyler

    So, what does Rachel Bison have to do with tkc? Since we’re into scrutinizing everything these days, Lauren, perhaps you can enlighten me.

  4. Lauren

    O……..M…….G!!!! This is getting hilarious. Now wonder Lala with all her postitive energy is posting on other threads. If the gets too hot get out of the kitchen. First we are vultures, now we are stupid. Julie where are you?

    Tyler, Tyler, Tyler, hullo, she does not keep in touch with her co stars, that is OK Katie, doesn’t too, she has been brainwashed not to… need I go on?

  5. Lauren

    Tyler, I wanted to reply your post but I started yawning and lost any energy left in me to even bother. Do you ever read the thread as a whole or do you take each post independently.It is a discussion, follow it. Do you ever read between the lines? Do words like innuendo and insinuation mean anything to you? I am bored.

  6. concerned mom

    Tia, thanks so much for the input..

  7. concerned mom

    tyler, you know anyone not totally in love with TC and crew is considered the devil here. LOL For a minute earlier today, I actually enjoyed a couple of posts by Lauren, et al but alas back to the same attack mode.

  8. *Katie*

    Wow… I leave leave tow for the day and come back to several posts mitigating my statements and even asking why I dare post “family secrets” and how that is not very friendly of me. I will not give credence to this wretchedness, but will state that I’ve spoken the truth (and yes, I know the JJ/KH time line, and yes, I knew them then, even though I didn’t yet work on the set.)

    Someone asked about Katie’s family and the occasional letter I get from her mom. These are personal letters, and not something I wish to post on a public forum.

    Lauren, your post states that you don’t think Michelle is a nice girl (perhaps that was a typo? because in the next sentance you went on to call her strong). Michelle, though shy, is extremely nice. I didn’t get to now her as well as I would have liked to, she kept to herself quite a bit, but was always kind. Josh was quite humorous, however, after the first season of Dawson’s James’ head grew about 5 sizes larger (nice kid when it started). I have not seen any of them since the end of the show.

    Someone else wrote about how Katie keps in touch with James, saying that I had false information by stating that by the 6th season, we were all pretty sick of him. How is this false information? Were you on set, did you see the dailies? Did you watch Katie roll her eyes whenever she had to kiss James in the later seasons? I think not unless you were actually there. I can’t speak for Katie, I don’t speak for Katie. All I can speak of is my own experiences. If anyone has a problem with that, well then it’s their problem to have, not mine.

    I enjoy coming to this site for news, and have been a lurker for quite a long time, but whoa… many of the posters on here have a tendancy to nit-pick a statement to death, which is not something I wish to spend my time on.

    I thank you to the people who said kind words about me, but can’t figure out why we, as a group, can’t just have a conversation about the subjects posted without it turning into a free-for-all….

  9. Mary

    I asked questions based on a discrepancy I found in a comment and for that I get insulted.

    My questions were directed to *Katie* who had answered my questions before and I looked forward to her answering the ones I did ask about the discrepancies……………..In the above comment she has. Thank you *Katie*

    I respond to subjects/comments posted and I have an opinion as do all who post here have.
    I don’t appreciate being insulted because I dare to ask questions.

    Let me say it again………………My opinion on TC/KH are not predetermined because I am a fan.

  10. Anon

    Katie: I have enjoyed having a MATURE conversation with you! Unfortunately, some here are still living in Junior High School.

    Maybe there is another place we can all go for a more mature conversaiton!

  11. Tyler

    Thanks, *Katie* for taking the high road. I think we should all follow:)

  12. annie

    JaJorge, i too think that katie has identity confusion,wanting to please everybody, just knowing,that people are disecting you all the time judging the authenticity of your relationship , your childs paternity,trying to figure out,what’s real, and what’s not, that you sold out, for celebrity status. people ,wishing bad on you ,your husband and baby. …….to be told , that you were set up, and auditioned, as a could be girlfriend, that was posted all over the world , internet, tv,mags,radio….no matter how much she loves tom, nobody,but nobody will convince me, that she did’nt question that in her heart and mind……it bothers me ,when people, like jada.p. smith say , katie is strong,gracious, maybe, that is her problem , everything is inside. maybe that’s why i found *katies comment yesterday….”that things could be worse” a bit strange. probably ,their marriage won’t last,after all this is hollywood,as everyone says,but i would hate for it , to ever end, because it was poisoned by everybody.

  13. Mary

    Her husband says that no one should underestimate Katie and it’s my opinion that many people have. They didn’t think the girl from DC would be able to handle all the viciousness said about her, her family and her choices over the past three years but she has and she’s done it with an incredible amount of dignity.

  14. jenna

    *Katie*: :) Yes, of course we can talk about VO work and how to break into it. I LOVE it. I have performed on stage and in independent films for many years but only have broken into VO work professionally and consistently within the past few years. My business is just now beginning to be lucrative! VO work fits perfectly in within my lifestyle b/c it permits me the time to attend graduate school. (I am graduating with my Master’s degree in December.) I would be more than happy to chat with you . How should we exchange e-mail addresses? Contact Julie? ANNIE: Hi! :) To answer your question I would speculate that yes, many stage performers have had a few voice lessons under their belts. Most theatre people can sing as well as act, and alot take professional voice lessons to improve upon their ability to sing. It is not mandatory to take lessons when on the stage but it may help ones performance. I can sing and act and took a few voice singing lessons many years ago. As a professional speaker I do not currently take any voice lessons. Again, it is not mandatory. Many stage performers already are able to project, have excellent diction, no identifiable accents etc. so taking a lesson will only help them to be even more articulate. Hope this answers your question! take care ladies! Jenna :)

  15. Hana

    I hope Julie will see this for herself…read what everyone has said and make up her own mind who is bullying who and who has insulted who.

  16. Hana

    “many of the posters on here have a tendancy to nit-pick a statement to death, which is not something I wish to spend my time on.”
    ………………………………………….

    You have to understand this is a blog and that is what people do on blogs.
    If you’ve been a long time lurker you would know this…some posters claim they have different experience, different jobs and live in different places….do you get where I’m going with this? People here contradict themselves all the time and if another poster catch that they’ll bring that up for discussion and ask questions and you have to be prepared to answer that or you don’t have to at all but the questions will be asked. Contrary to what some might try to make you believe this is what happens on a fan blog. Unless of course the site is a hate site and everyone speaks the same language (even on fan forum this is how fans are).

    “Their marriage won’t last,after all this is hollywood,as everyone says,but i would hate for it , to ever end, because it was poisoned by everybody.”
    ……………………..
    I’d hate for it to end too. I’m rooting for them to prove all the naysayers wrong and live happily ever after. And I wouldn’t say that their marriage is poisoned by everybody but people have tried to poison it from the start and if what people said happened, they wouldn’t be married today.

  17. Mary

    I have NEVER insulted anyone on this site. There was no need whatsoever to insult me in responding to my comments.

    There is no discussion without questions.

    My questions to *Katie* were due to the comment she made saying that Katie and JJ’s relationship happened in the hiatus of season 1 and 2 and part of season 2…………….
    *Katie* said she was not on DC for either season so for her to say that she observed KH/JJ as boyfriend/girlfriend couldn’t be………. Their romance started on set.
    Katie herself is quoted as saying that the relationship lasted all of season 1 and part of season 2, not during the hiatus between seasons 1 and 2.

    *Katie’s* statement begged a clarification.

    Who better to know when her relationship started/lasted than Katie Holmes herself.

    My questions did not deserve this:

    Tyler
    Jun 11, 2008 at 11:46 am

    Mary, this is not a courtroom!!!! Leave people alone. Who the h*** are you anyway?????

    OR THIS

    bumblebeej
    Jun 11, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    Mary, get over yourself you stupid old bat.

  18. Hana

    I agree with you Mary, you did not deserve that from Tyler and Bumblebeej, for only asking questions. I’ve never read you insulting anyone.

    I think people want to just say whatever they want and not get asked questions and that is not going to happen on this blog. If you not prepared to back up what you say or have a problem with getting asked questions or your post being nit-picked then don’t say anything at all.

    Even after advertising their website here, I can see Puckhappy and Bumblebeej are still with us….

  19. Tia

    OMG! I see this thread hasn’t been moderated yet. I feel sorry for Julie cause she’ll have her hands full when she gets back from her holiday.

  20. annie

    con mom, the last thing that suri has, are sad eyes, glad her dad is holding her more in front of the photographers,as he seems more comfortable in front of the cameras than katie is, so suri might become less wary of them.

  21. annie

    Hana…..first of all ,i don’t really understand, what you’re trying to say , and i said ”probably”, but what is it that has bothered you, exactly , and you chose that paticular phrase to comment on.

  22. Lilianne

    Wow…there are a lot of people here who seem to thrive on being vicious and mean to people they don’t even KNOW. I don’t care if you don’t agree with someone and feel very strongly about something there is NEVER a good reason to call someone else names or to be cruel.

  23. Hana

    Annie, nothing bothered me about your post. I was actually agreeing with you…people have tried to poison their marriage/relationship but they’re still going storing and I don’t want it to end just like you.

    I apologies for the confusion.

  24. Hana

    Annie, nothing bothered me about your post. I was actually agreeing with you…people have tried to poison their marriage/relationship but they’re still going strong and I don’t want it to end just like you.

    I apologies for the confusion.

  25. Hana

    Im sorry for the double post…I needed to make a correction. :)

  26. Mary

    Lilianne
    Jun 12, 2008 at 6:54 am

    Wow…there are a lot of people here who seem to thrive on being vicious and mean to people they don’t even KNOW. I don’t care if you don’t agree with someone and feel very strongly about something there is NEVER a good reason to call someone else names or to be cruel.
    ___________________________________________
    Lilianne: I feel the same.

    I hope the time is sooner rather than later when we can have discussions not laced with insults and name calling to one another or to the celebrities we are discussing.

    There is simply no justification to say some of the very cruel/hateful things that have been said here.

  27. Lilianne

    Well, I think Jane has a serious problem and maybe should spend some time on self-reflection because her comments are so far out of line that I am disgusted. I also find the names that Mary was called to be offensive. Even if noone else says so..or agrees with me this kind of thing should not be allowed.

  28. jenna

    Annie and *Katie*:

    did you happen to read my post in response to your questions? Just wondering b/c there have been a few more comments since I responded to your questions and my response may have gotten lost in all the comments!

  29. concerned mom

    So true, Annie. That is why we never see her smiling or interacting with either of them. She is such a happy go lucky kid being raised in such a normal, loving environment.

  30. Tyler

    My apologies. I’ll try to walk away next time.

  31. Anon

    Lilli: Agree! And very well said!! I wish the crowd who is insulting will stop and we can discuss things more maturely…and agree to disagree.

    The other thing that annoys me is when people comment about things read on other sites.

  32. annie

    Jenna…..thank you, much appreciated it.

  33. annie

    hi,hana…….no need to apologise, i think it was me, anyway, i misunderstood.

  34. Julie Bonner

    Comments are now closed for ….um…obvious reasons.

  35. Julie Bonner

    For the record…I am not paid on the number of comments here. That information is false. I don’t want some of you to think that I leave up as many comments as possible because it affects my pay, because it doesn’t.

  36. Allie

    Valkyrie is filming all the desert scenes starting June 17th in the High Desert area of Victorville, CA. Try getting a hotel room in Victorville on that date – it’s impossible – they have booked all the rooms in the city.

  37. Rosie

    I first saw the trailer for “VALKYRIE” several months ago. Frankly, I was impressed and was disappointed to learn that the movie had been rescheduled for February 2009.

    The bashing against Tom Cruise and the media’s determination to ruin his career has now reached the heights of a ridiculous nature.

  38. PuckHappy

    The media is only reporting what tom does and says in public. They can’t report what he does NOT do or say.
    The public then decides whether or not they like what they are seeing.

  39. Lauren

    The media tells tall tales about Tom, unless of course tabloids are no longer part of the media. The media said he split with Katie, Suri did not exist, he was not the father of Suri, he was controlling etc etc. But of course, in the end the truth will prevail. Tom has Katie, Katie has Tom and all those critics are sitting behind their laptops popping their happy pills and spewing their bitterness. At least he is happy.

  40. PuckHappy

    In the States, level headed free thinkers know that the tabloids are to be taken with a grain of salt and are NOT news as fact.
    That said, there is much truth in what they print or you would see the celebs file lawsuits like there is no tomorrow.
    If none of what the tabs print about tc, why HASN’T he filed lawsuits for slander?

    OH and ONE “cease and desist” letter does NOT a lawsuit make.
    A C&D is merely a “request” to halt an activity.

  41. concerned mom

    Puck Happy, Lauren is a lawyer and probably already knows that??????

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