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I caught this on E! last night, but I do feel a bit of sympathy for Jon Voight, so decided I didn’t want to talk about it. But now, the world is talking, so I guess I had better too. Poor Jon, he is not scoring points with Angelina:
At the fourth annual BAFTA Tea Party (BAFTA is the Oscars for Brits), Voight was talking with a reporter on the red carpet when he decided to send birthday wishes to Maddox, Angelina’s five-year-old child. That went well, but then things took an ugly turn. Voight also sent well-wishes to “Shakira” — problem is, he was talking about Angelina’s 1 1/2-year-old daughter. Shakira is considerably older — 29. The correct name — Zahara.
TMZ goes on to say that Shiloh didn’t get a mention, but to be honest, I think he was a little inebriated, and he was combining Zahara and Shiloh and coming up with Shakira. Hey – I’m trying to give the guy a break here. 
TMZ has a video of the blunder, check it out.
Shakira? LOL at Voight .
The Video:
http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp?mode=1&pmmsid=1701820
Dear Christine – just a suggestion but please don’t censor the stories because ‘you don’t like them’!!!
This is supposed to be somewhere that fans can get the info – we are capable of deciding for ourselves what we think about it!
oh, god! he actually is digging a deeper hole for himself! i pity this old man, really…. but he needs to stop talking publicly about his realationship with angie.
i didnot work. never works, i guess.
poor guy…
You’re a better woman than me Christina lol. Sorry, but the guy just doesn’t seem to be able to put a lid on it when it comes to speaking in public about his family. He just needs to shutup and start using the US postal service.
LOL JPF – I know I’m a bit of a softy towards Grampa Jon.
MCBee – Gimme a break. There are 112 places you can go to bash Jon Voight, I’m sure. Notice I skip lots of JA news? Consider it censorship if you would like, but this is my site, and I am not into arguing. Except when I first wake up.
Lot’s of comments here you guys.
http://dlisted.blogspot.com/
You have to scroll down to get it but already over a hundred comments. Jon really got some people heated up. Some anti Angie comments but most people see through Jon Voights fake persona.
He is pretending to be nice to Maddoz and ‘the other one’ so he can see Shiloh.
Okay, Christina, I guess you may have to delete this when I am finished with this post, but I hope you do allow the people on here to read it before doing so.
The way some of the posters on here are so ready to condemn Jon Voight is so pathetic, and yes, it is your site, and it is your right to delete and criticize, although you have been the least critical of all, if at all.
We celebrated our daughter’s 40th birthday on Saturday. For the first year and a half of her life, her VERY OWN paternal grandmother called her “Rochelle.” I did not say anything to her. I know that she did not love our daughter very much because she was very much against my marriage to her son. You see, I am his second wife, just as he is my second husband. I had two sons and she was constantly criticizing them and calling them names. When our daughter was one and half years old, my husband finally told his mother that her name was “Michelle,” not “Rochelle”. She apologized and never called her Rochelle again. I told her there was nothing to forgive.
My mother-in-law was always telling me how much my husband STILL loved his ex-wife, and how beautiful she was, and how he would never stop loving her. That hurt, but once again, I kept my mouth shut and my opinions to myself.
I am grateful that I don’t have the disposition to hold a grudge. You see, she died of Alzheimer’s Disease years later, and she didn’t even recognize her own son, but she did know me. She was a pathetic old lady, but she clung to me in the end.
As for the drinking! I am NOT now, nor have I ever been a drinker, but I don’t condemn those who do as “poor, pathetic, old men/women.” And I am sure that there are a lot of posters on here that do drink.
Funny that there was a article about Brad’s Mom being upset over Angelina’s drinking, but I don’t think anyone here believes that Angie could possibly do that, right?
Forgive me for being so blunt, but I am 72 years old and I just can’t understand these unforgiving and judgemental young people of today. I hate to tell you all this, but you are heading in the direction of the “pathetic old man.”
I guess now you know why I don’t post too often.
Love,
Anhri
Christina, please accept my apologies for seemingly including you. You are the one who truly tries to keep things on an even keel when it comes to Jon.
Anhri
Ahri, it’s not about unforgivness all the time. Angelina Jolie to my knowledge has never said she didn’t love her dad, or has she ever said that she hated him. This is about the man not having the heart some think he does, and allowing sentimentality, tradition, and the belief that because this “father” has cried tears and aired what should be private to the world, she should put away all for the sake of making him feel better.
He doesn’t respect her because if he did, he’d cease with these little public manipulations, and that’s exactly what it is “manipulation.” I’ve read more nasty and hurtful things said about Angelina because of the gallery avoidance, and even though the guy mucked up Zahara’s name, Angelina is being the one blamed! My goodness, even those who hate the woman know what her kids names are! And speaking of dear old grandad, does no one find it even a bit suspicious that this is all of 2 times that the man has even acknowledged the adopted childrens existience, yet the moment Shiloh showed up he couldn’t stop talking about her to the point of having given her a nickname of Shi, and babeling on about how she could have anything she wanted from him, and in the same breath he refered to the other children AS the “others?!” Please.
Angelina is the one one who has to live with her decisions, and from all we know, she didn’t come to them lightly where Jon Voight is concerned. There’s evidence that time and time again the “daughter” reached out, and there’s evidence that time and time again the “father” abused that effort, and hey, enough is enough. I think it’s beyond unfair for Angelina to be in the hot seat as if she is obligated to be buck up and take whatever grief he levels on her simply because of some belief that the child must honor the parent no matter the circumstances. When someone is in the habit of making your life stressful repeatedly, and disrespecting your privacy by consistantly making public what shouldn’t be, then I say love them from afar.
He (JV) was blessed with children and he first abused that gift by leaving them behind when they were 1 and 3. He’s led some to believe that he was always in their lives and that’s not true. It was on his schedule when he decided to be around and play daddy and it isn’t fair that Angelina is being judged as if this man has been this consistantly, loving, helpful, supportive dad who can’t catch a break for making a mistake and that seriously sucks when it goes so much deeper, and he knows it does. JMHO
JPF,
I doubt that I ever mentioned the word “love”, and I don’t have the ability to know exactly what JV or AJ feel. I am not that spiritual that I can know what their minds are thinking, and what is going on right now. I am NOT that “fly on the wall” that ABSOLUTELY KNOWS everything everyone of them thinks and does.
I only observe and at times, post on here from my very own experiences in life, which is a very long one. It IS about forgiveness, whether you see it that way or not. You forgive people for what they are, not for what you want them to be.
FORGIVENESS AND UNDERSTANDING is what friendships, relationships, and marriage are all about. Friends can hurt us sometime, but if they are truly good friends, we forgive them, or lose their frienship. The same goes for relationships, and marriage. So, you see, IT IS all about forgiveness and understanding. If you can’t do that, life can be very lonely, regardless of whether you are in a marriage, or a relationship, or even friendship. Just because you have someone in your life does not ensure that you are happy, fulfilled, and content.
No one, not even our beloved AJ and/or BP, are perfect, THAT MUCH I have learned through the years, and forgiving someone, believe it or not, makes a stronger person out of you, and a lot more understanding.
But, I won’t change anyone’s mind on here. You believe that AJ and BP can do no wrong. Well, you see, I love them, and admire theme, in spite of the any mistakes they may make. I can only pray that their love for one another, and for their children, will keep them together forever, and I hope that AJ never does anything that Maddox, or Zahara, or Shiloh cannot forgive her for. You may think this is very wrong of me to even mention it, but kids do grow up, and if they see how AJ has treated her father, why should they feel any differently about her and/or BP?
Going back to lurking, or perhaps, not reading about them at all.
Good luck to all of you.
Anhri
I can’t not believe that he can’t not even remenber their names and he want Angie to involve him in her children life this show how that he doesn’t care about them. I dont blame her that she sidn’t talk to him because if he cannot remember their name why bother let him meet them.
anhri, i mostly agree with your opinion.
but, to be a person like that need a veeeery big gut.
yes, i myself have been through a situation like that. i tried to forgive someone that broke my heart very much, and I FEEL BETTER EVER SINCE!!
u are right. angie must cut off the chain karma in the family. what JV has right now is his own karma for what he has done. and angie is in the process of creating her own.
my opinion, she just need to be a good daughter for her kids’ sake. u know what i mean?
what JV has done is his own sin. I just wish angie won’t make the same sin like her father did, so her kids won’t follow in the wrong way.
god bless the jolie pitts and all of us.
Ahri, we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.
In my opinion, when a family member has repeatedly upset or hurt you I think there are two very different issues:
1. can you forgive them in your heart and not bear malice?
2. do you want them in your life?
I think its great if you can forgive, but if someone keeps hurting you or your kids you need to think about limiting the time you spend with them, I think. There are alot of different degrees of abuse and neglect, and some should not be tolerated (again, in my, not very humble opinion.
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