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Mon, Nov 28 2005

Karrine vs. Tyra

Karrine Steffans is armed and ready to go head-to-head with Tyra Banks on Tyra’s talk show on Monday. Looks like there’s quite a bit of drama stirring between the two, ever since Steffans was interviewed by Tyra.

Vibe has the details:

As reported in the New York Daily News on Sept. 20, Steffans says that she and Banks are not that different. Steffans told John Salley and Ananda Lewis, on their L.A. radio show, “I heard they call Tyra ‘Hollywood Hop” for the many men in Hollywood who have bedded Tyra and moved on.”

Steffan’s remarks on Salley’s show was round two of the cat fight between she and Banks, and came after being interviewed for the Tyra Banks Show. Steffans, who is now reportedly dating Bill Maher, stated that Banks dissed her during the interview, and that she was ready to pull her wig off.

Ha! Must See TV right there.

There’s an alleged clip preview of the show on Monday, here, but it’s not working for me.

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  5. By Lorraina

    Tyra is a condescending B****! She’s so fake, the only tragic pain she’s ever notibly experienced is when Namoi Cambell tried to kick her.*ss. She’s always had her mom to protect her and watch out for her from the bad things in this industry, girls like me and Karrine that never had mothers or gaurdians look out for us were thrown into this world alone so we had to learn from our own mistakes. Karrine is human she’s learning just like every other teen and twenty something yr old out here in life. Tyras just pathetic and one of the biggest hypocrites in the buisness. She knows nothing about journalism or real life problems. Tyra giving advice on class is like Brittany Spears giving advice on ettiquette. its a joke and so is she!

  6. By Marsena Cook

    Karrine vs. Tyra. Hmmm…let’s compare, shall we?

    Tyra Banks, age 33, former model who spends every summer helping young girls developconfidence and self-esteem through her T-Zone camp, and has consistently called the modeling world on the carpet for glorifying ultra-thinness; a compassionate woman who is also not afraid to ask the hard questions of those she interviews (including Ms. Steffans); a young lady who was blessed to have a loving mother who, thankfully, refused to let the modeling industry lead her daughter to starve herself, and who raised her to have dignity and self-respect; a woman that is living proof that models DO have brains and intelligence, and who has demonstrated that through having her own production company; who succeeded in entertainment the RIGHT way – through hard work rather than through sleeping around (contrary to some of the opinions expressed, everybody in Hollywood ISN’T sleeping with everybody to get ahead!).

    Karrine Steffans, age 29, former video model who, according to her, has slept with half the rap industry and did ONE legitimate movie; a woman who was horribly abused by her mother (I cried reading that part of her book; that mother of hers is going to seriously meet her doom on the Day of Judgment!); who says she has ‘changed’ her ways, yet still dresses provocatively and was even in a recent porn flick.

    I have read Steffans’ first book, and I have to admit that at first I truly felt sympathy and compassion for her having a demon of a mother who destroyed her daughter’s sense of self-worth with her abuse towards her. I was incensed by her mother not believing her when she was raped. It made me truly grateful for the wonderful mother I have, who I KNOW would have probably ended up in prison for the damage she would have inflicted on any sorry wretch who did that to me.

    I also appreciated her exposure of the underworld of hip-hop, and the sexual exploitation going on behind and on the scenes (although one can hardly be surprised at her ‘revelations’). Certainly young girls need to know that the majority (but not all) of these rappers look at women as nothing more than an easy lay, and that sleeping with these men is casting pearls before swine. They need help in finding more positive role models to be inspired by.

    On the other hand, Steffans is not the only one who has had a horrible childhood. There are many others who have had stories of abuse just as bad – or worse – than their own. She is also not the only one who made wrong choices and looked for love in all the wrong places. The problem I have with Steffans (especially after hearing what she said about Tyra), is that she claims to have changed her ways, but her behavior says otherwise. When she still dresses provocatively, and has even been in a porn flick recently, that is not evidence of a changed person. I suspect that the only change she has made is that she has decided to market her promiscuous lifestyle more effectively through books, TV and radio interviews, etc. One cannot convince me that making money was not one of her main motivations for all that she’s doing now. And just because she supposedly doesn’t expose her son to all her escapades doesn’t make it okay. No child deserves parents like that!

    I do agree with some of the posters, however, that these men are just as wrong as she is for their sleeping around. They are a disgrace to the MILLIONS of good Black men like my husband who may never have books written about them, who are loving and faithful to their wives and are good fathers to their children, who are in college or working a job trying to support their families, who would never dream of disrespecting women in any way. They make Black men look like little more than dogs-in-heat, and I’m sick of it! They need to be exposed because they are fleecing our communities of our hard-earned dollars promoting filth and perversion in their videos.

    I don’t believe any of what she’s saying about Tyra. Those men she slept with that she claims told her that mess are LYING; they WISH they had the privilege! Furthermore, she’s probably jealous of her legitimate, hard-earned success, and her decent reputation. She’s trying to destroy Tyra, but it won’t work! It’s Tyra’s show, and she has the right to ask Steffans what she wants to. If Steffans didn’t like how she was being treated, she could have exited stage left. No one made her stay!

  7. By Nette

    I would like to say that I saw Tyra’s interview with the Hoe. I think Tyra was right about everything she said an was asking. Superhead did not just come from a rap song or a nickname that is what she was known for giving from the jump. Come on now what kind of mother could justify the things she has done . An what about her son having to live with the fact that his mom was an still is a whore. I am trying to understand how do a Hoe get paid twice for services rendered. She already got money from the dudes for freaking them an now she is making a living off of them for writing about their experiences in a book. She desrves all the ridicule she gets. Did she think about the families she would be hurting in the process or their children no she didn’t. She was completely motivated by money and greed. She really owe those guys an apology cause they didn’t make any money off of her tell all book.She was treated like a hoe cause she enjoyed it. After her first episode she could of chose to get out of that life but she didn’t cause she enjoyed sucking dudes off. She should be ashamed and embarassed. One of her sex tapes with the porn star was off the hook she was draining his private area for all its worth. She is trifling an a disease waiting to happen. She is no ones sister she is a hoe in her own world an I think her other book shouldn’t of got published. If she is lying about anything or lying on anyone then they should sue her for defamation of character. What about the emotional stress she is putting on those guys who didn’t want to be put out there like that.If you are going to feel sorry for her then you may as well feel sorry for the guys also. She is a homewrecking whore with a reputation from her to Thailand. She is a golddigger with the capital G and she should be played out by now. Why would anyone else want her after she has been with so many. Oh! I forgot it’s the Superhead. To all my true sista’s out their do not follow in her footsteps. You should lead by example and Child protective services should of been stepped in on her cause dedicating that kind of filfth to your son is trifling in every way. She doesn’t need prayer she needs and AIDS test and guidance.

  8. By amber

    I did not see the interview but from what I am hearing I agree w/ alot of you by saying Tyra may have had her own reasons for coming @ Karrine the way she did and honestly Karrine knew exactly what she was doing @ the time it was being done. Yes men do not have the right to take advantage of a woman but if that woman allows it to happen then that is her own fault. Karrine knew what she was doing completely and she needs to come to grips why people are coming at her the way that they do.

  9. By Big_P

    Give it a rest, Karrine didn’t do anything different than Paris Hilton, or any other “white” girl in the biz. I’ve been in the entertainment industry for 25 years, since I was 13 years old. Wether they say it or not, you can’t name one woman in the entertainment industry who haven’t been across the famed “couch of Hollywood”, or some refer to it as the “casting couch”. Wether a female choose to speak up or not it happens and that’s the life of the business. I agree that everyone is hating on Karrine cause she flip the script on all the jerks that was trying to steal a cookie out of the jar without getting caught. Life is about choices we all make good ones and we all make bad ones. It’s everyone’s God given right to be stupid enough to keep making bad ones and get caught up, as it is to be smart and wise enough to know that you’ve done something stupid, don’t do it again and move on. So what Karrine did is no different than what all the people she ratted out did, it’s just that she saw monetary gain in spilling the beans, while they saw monetary gain in keeping it all quiet.

  10. By Glennisha

    Karrine Steffans is not a hoe. She just did what she did to make things happen in her life life she didnt know would never happen. And then she did things to make sure her son ate and they both survived. Everybody has things in the past that other peoeple wouldnt find too attractive and yet you arent ashamed of it. SO get off her nutts and let her do what she does

  11. By Maxine

    Karrine, Jesus loved Mary Magdalene. Jesus loves you too. Get saved, before it is eternally too late.

    God Bless You

  12. By Maxine

    Karrine, on the one hand you talk about trying to educate and enlighten up and coming women about the pitfalls of this industry, which is romanticized, glamorized, made to appear Larger-Than-Life and so forth. So why would you allow yourself to become pregnant with a once married about to be divorced singer. You are contributing to the demise of another woman’s marriage, but yet your supposed to be teaching other girls right from wrong? It makes you look like a sham and a hypocrite. Karrine, please get it right. I agree with you that when you peel back the layers of the Hip Hop Industry, it is extremely dangerous, but don’t offset that with the same behavior you condemn by getting down and around with another married man. You make yourself look crazy. I don’t hate you. In fact, I wish you well, but if you are really trying to make a change, then girlfriend, you are off to one sloppy start.

  13. By Pamala

    All i have to say is I am totally embarassed..I am from st.thomas and she put us on the map, un willingly. First of all Karrine made excuses for her actions like a real sociopath. How can you sit there and say what you did and try to dedicate it to your son?. Why does he have to know how big of a whore his mother was?. My God, imagine this child when he fianlly learns to read and enters the library at his school to see his mother on the cover and actually read the book. Also, I want to know what part of the island she grew up on. Where in St.Thomas did you grow up and they didnt have running water and a screen door? Bitch please! Stop trying to make everyone feel so sorry for you. Oh and for everyone else who made a “positive” comment towards Karrine..do me a favor and re read the book. Then do an online search on what your beloved angel has been up to. For instance she made a porn tape with Mr. Marcus..Hmmm…that doesnt sound like someone who is trying to turn her life around. And by the way…she did the video after the book. Karrine get your life together…everyday you made a choice to open your legs and give away a piece of yourself to a man who never cared. To men who were married, and had children. You as a woman should’ve had enough value and self worth to say no to your promiscuous ways. She is just out to make her money for having sex with EVERYONE and trying to make a living off of it. If I was her son, I’d be ashamed. We all have horrible pasts, we all have skeletons in our closet, but everyday we live we make choices. She could have chose not to ride any and everything with a dick, she could have had self worth. She broke up many marriages and homes by her actions. I just would love to see the day that Shaq’s wife, Beyonce, and Ja Rule’s wife Kristin meet. That would be one huge cat fight!!!

  14. By YOSHI

    Celebrities are phony and will do anything to further their careers. Tyra bashed Karrine because she of her own insercurities and i know that she planned on putting her on spot but siding with the guys was a huge mistake. Karrine was interested in only furthering her career by drawing attention to her story and she let the world know in her book that she dont care what anyone think…especally females. So doing something as grimy as exploiting herself and others should come naturally to her.

  15. By SexyDiva

    I was surprised by Tyra’s strong stance against Karrine’s decision to DROP names in the book too. But my concern isn’t for Tyra, Karrine or even the guys Karrine did everything freaky with. What the hell about the wives? Shaq, Ja Rule, Bobby Brown,even P. Diddy(who was with his girlfriend Supermodel Kim Porter right after JLo). It makes me sick that these so-called wives in the hip-hop world tolerate their men sleeping with all these video girls & disrepecting women in the videos. Tyra should have attacked the wives of these ‘playas’ not Karrine. So Karrine wrote a book about men she slept with. So what! These men want to do their dirty sh*!*^ and keep it under raps. These men have kids, daughters. I know men will be men. Then leave your wife, be single and go do what U want. Don’t bring that possible HIV or herpes crap home to your wife. No disrepect to Karrine. But I pray she’s alright. Hope she got tested & is OK. I feel for Karrine. She’s a big girl who knew what she was doing. But hey we ladies love attention. She got more than she bargained for & got caught up BIG TIME. Clearly her name was going around in the BIZ as a ‘superhead’ and super-freak’ in bed. Let’s be honest men love to sleep with us & then spread the dirty deed around to their friends. To any male who’ll listen. How come men don’t know to keep their mouths shut when they’re telling their boys about sexual conquests? But Karrine should keep the secret about them? Listen, WE all know the rumours of the sexual exploitation of women in hip hop and know Karrine has told the truth. Should we hate her, no. I feel sorry for her cause she went through SO MUCH. Do I feel she was victimized – HELL NO. She was a big girl who should know U don’t give a guy a blowjob for over two hours. Or allow yourself to be passed around to other men like a sex toy.That’s just straight up NASTY. I mean did she enjoy it? Did Tyra do a good job attacking Karrine on her show…still don’t know what that was about? But yeah there’s a double standard. I remember Madonna went off on Dennis Rodman a few years ago for talking about their bed romps. Madonna has had tons of men & never has she talked candidly about them…..she’s pretty cool that way. Now Rodman has done it again in his second bio. I mean what’s wrong with this guy? And why didn’t Tyra bully him about that. Madonna is a mother NOW. Didn’t Tyra think Madonna’s family would be affected the way Karrine’s men might be. Seems Tyra did play the Bias card. But WE women always get slammed when we sleep with more than two guys. Men can sleep with two-hundred women a year & it’s nothing. So Karrine, U don’t need to apologize to Tyra, hip hop stars, the media or specially the public. It’s your biz what U do with it. Men never apologize for sleeping around. Look at these married men who behave discustingly. Even Michael Jordan has apparently slept with well over 500 women in his time YES most during his marriage. His wife stands by his side like a dumb idiot smiling and collecting his money. She & other celebrity wives have no shame or pride!
    I would feel like the biggest fool!! I mean I’ve heard of open relationships but come on? Karrine & other video girls trysts with all these hip hop stars is straight up gross…..I really really hope they get tested for Aids & their men wore heavy duty condoms.
    That’s what Tyra should have focused on…..leaving Karrine’s decision alone & telling the public that having sex with multiple women outside of marriage is gross. I betcha Ice T., Ja Rule & Shaq, Michael Jordon and others would dump their wives super-quick if their women were sleeping with tons of guys on the side.

  16. By Natalie Samone

    I just got finish reading Ms.SUPERHEAD book and i actually feel for her, but at the same time. She is a grown ass woman, she let these men do this to her!!!. I am a young girl at the age of 18 and i’m currently in Las Vegas prostituting for a PIMP right now. Yes, he has hit me,spit me,and even made me drink his pee. But still i stay, I’m not saying he has the right to doing this to me, but at the same time I OBVIOUSLY want it because i’m still here. And that goes for Karrine, She is a grown woman.You also have to look at a persons childhood the way they grew up,and from reading her story i believe she just wanted to be love and through sex w/ these various men she felt that missing piece…..Just like me, I grew up w/ no father, in and out of group homes,etc. Basically i wanted love and through that i found sex w/ men and LOVE for money to give me my missing piece,and w/ my PIMP i feel thr mose money give him the more he loves me. So a person has to wanna stop and stop letting these people do this to them. So NO i dont feel sorry for Karrine nor what she went through, but i feel sorry for her soul because thats all she knows!!!!..JUST LIKE MYSELF!!!

  17. By terry

    I was very troubled by the show. I am upset that Tyra would bash another woman on her show for sleeping with Celebrities, then praise a former NBA star (Dennis Rodman) for his escapades with Married women. He also mentioned that he is currently not faithful to his wife…and Tyra laughed!!
    But then you have a woman who admits the people she has slept with and she is given a harsher interview. The sad thing is that you cna understand why Karrine Steffans did the things she did. She was looking to fill a void she cannot fill herself. No one can, but God. She was trying to fill the loss of her mother and father’s love through the affection of other men. She tried to fill the void of her lost innocence by giving men what they want so they don’t have to take it. Then to fill the void of feeling like a “ho” she took money to at least believe she got something out of the deal. It may sound dumb us but it is not our lives. Tyra was saying that she did it for the money -and I say so what if she did! If she was living in a car at one point, and didn’t have a lot of money then why not?!

    To me Tyra let down one of her sister’s in need, instead dissin her and voicing that she didn’t agree with the lifestyle she could have gave her the support to come out of it. But all Tyra did was turn her nose up at her sister, who she may have been able to help. Sometimes people do things we don’t like or agree with, but that is our opportunity to help them see a better way. Its not time to push them away and be disgusted in them, that is the time where we can show our love for one another the most.

  18. By Shayna

    Okay to the person that thought it was disrespectful of Karrine to dedicate the book to her son…it was for a reason. She wasnt dedicating the things she did…if you actually read the book she dedicated it to him because he was the only one there for her. Through all the rain and pain he was the only one that told her “I love you ” and actually meant it, so she was thanking him for waking her up and inspiring her to get out of her slump.

    As far as Karrine sleeping with Chris Webber while Tyra was dating him…who in Hollywood hasnt, I know about 2 girls that have hooked up with him and Tyra should know better because thats reality for these basketball players and athletes. THEY CHEAT! An why is she mad at Karrine for sleeping with him? She should be mad at him not her, they have no ties to one another. If anything Karrine did her a favor by showing Tyra that her man was no good.
    Also as far as Karrines motives for writing the book…it doesnt matter, it was the truth and like I said before if these men didnt do what they did there would be no book to write. An like a lot of the ladies said up top…Tyra acted totally different when she questioned Rodman and Chingy on there sexcapades. Fake…I cant stand Tyra Banks. I didnt even like the way she came at Naomi. If she was that hurt and concerned she would have sat her down years ago with the cameras off and since she didnt that tells me she’s fake and she cares about what other people think and she is too old and too succesful to be feeling that way. As far as Karrine lieing, uh that would be a negative. Irv Gotti himself who was also in the book gave her props for writing it and flipping the script on all of them. An P.diddy who was angered by the book is fake as well because Usher already put him on blast for taking him to his first Orgy when he was only 13. Now if this asshole can take a 13 yr old boy to an orgy god knows what and how bad he exploits women. Look at R.Kelly for years and years he slept with underage girls and no one said anything. An I have proof that juvenile and Lil wayne have slept with 16 and 17 yr olds. An the point is finally someone has spoke out about it TRUTHFULLY and willingly. these kinds of acts and perversions are ruining hiphop and the true message of the art form. We’re creating our own stereotypes and disrespecting ourselves for the world to see. Women like Karrine are breaking and exposing those stereotypes for what they really are.

  19. By Judith

    another thing, i do feel that the video vixen needs to admit, she did it for money…..tyra is still a hater!

  20. By Judith

    that’s fair to say mocha but however, just because the oppotunity to treat someone like a dog arises, that still does not make it right. yes women need to stand up for themselve and finally say they will not act like a hoe to get a man, but a man also need to treat women in a respectful manner. so what if the husband said it was okay, it still was not right, or cute. It sadden me that trya found it funny and giggle at all the crappy things rodman did to women. I know she probely did not think it was funny when she acted like a hoe, and men treated her like crap. yes, i went there.