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Not that we need any more proof, but check this out. I’m really scared for Katie Holmes. I hope Tom doesn’t eat her someday:
Tom Cruise has been sitting down with a lot of reporters lately — but one recent chat didn’t go so well. The “Mission Impossible” star walked out of an interview with Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet Söndag after the conversation turned to his ex-wife, Nicole Kidman.
The conversation was all smiles until reporter Björn Benkow insisted that experts say that dyslexia cannot be cured by Scientology as Cruise has claimed. There was an awkward pause, then Cruise burst into laughter. “I’m going to, in any case, admit that you have the courage of a madman,” according to our translator. “This is something no journalist has dared say to me face-to-face. . . . Scientology is a religion without divinity. Its teaching is a spiritual liberation from life’s problems that can only be reached through advice, courses and deep studies. Your cynical media colleagues cast doubt over all the good that we do by spreading a bunch of hocus pocus about us.”
Then the reporter mentioned Kidman and the two children that she and Cruise adopted. “Now you’ve gone over the line,” Cruise replied. Then, according to Benkow, one of Cruise’s two bodyguards put his hand on the reporter’s shoulder, and Cruise said: “Now, unfortunately, I have to end this, Mr. . . . ?”
“Benkow,” the reporter replied.
“Whatever,” Cruise replied. “I have to move on.” via MSN
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Why is that proof he is crazy? If someone was bashing my religion I would be pretty pissed myself. Maybe there is a lot about scientology that we do not understand. I think their philosophy of “a religion without divinity. Its teaching is a spiritual liberation from life’s problems that can only be reached through advice, courses and deep studies” sounds like it could be interesting and something people should look into rather than bashing it to further our understanding. A lot of religions do not necessarily make a lot of sense to us but if they are bringing happiness and spiritual fulfillment to people who is to say it is wrong? If spiritual release (from any religion) can bring some sort of tranquility to someone who has been searching for a long time for something that makes sense to them why should we judge. Sure it has aspects to it that we do not understand (like having a quiet birth) but most religions have stuff about them that we do not undetstand and I am sure if we read the philosophy of Scientology in depth we would probably understand why they do the things we do and wouldn’t judge so harshly.
From the Leora’s post I didn’t think that the reporter Björn Benkow was bashing Scientology at all! All he said was that “experts say that dyslexia cannot be cured by Scientology.” That’s not religion bashing at all it’s simply stating a fact that Tom could easily refute or indicate some evidence to support the cliam instead of ranting on with a in a hocus pocus manner as I’ve seen him do before in another TV interview. I’ve heard him use that “Now you’ve gone over the line” bit before and really it’s turned me off him big time.
Anyway, I hear that Katie and TOm have had a daughter and named her Suri…..
If anyone looks into scientology, i suggest they start with the internet, read the good and the bad and decide for yourself. But drom what I see and understand from some serious studying of it, they basically get you to tell all your deep dark secrets, write them all down in a secret file that is supposed to never be used for anything other than your studies with scientology, then eventually, if you don’t stay in the “church” and continue to pay ever more exorbitant fees to reach the next of several levels, they pull out that file and threaten to use anything they can against you about your own skeletons to get you to stay (and pay). Thats how they get em, keep em and stay rich…and every member gets a cut of any other members study fees that they bring in… it’s MLM… so rich & famous people are coveted….they even do alot of “good” worldwide as a cover for the nasty stuff going on under the surface. Scientology is a brainwashing cult, and a business…it is NOT a church. People have commited suicide because of the pressure and harrassment to spend all thier money on the church. I’ve studied it. Slam me if ya want. This is what I know and I am sharing it. I say Run. Run far away from scientology. JMO.
Oh really….that sounds terrible. There’s a lot of that sort of stuff around. But isn’t TC so hocked on it? Surely he wouldn’t be in it for the MLM dowsnstream money that flows to him?
Personally, I think Tom blew it by revealing details about his father. His attitude while talking about it, his arrogance, like “I’m so much better than him”…(regardless of whether his father was the biggest jerk or pedophile on the planet) just the fact that Tom even wasted breath to mention him tells volumes. Supposedly scientology wipes away those memories. Because by thier own edicts, and beliefs they say once “clear” those negative baggage memories should be gone from memory and not a burden anymore. By mentioning his fathers faults, Tom has said that Scientology doesn’t work. I think he is just as brainwashed as Katie. Don’t even get me started on John Travolta.
As for scientology coveting the rich and famous, of course they do. anyone who is not a celeb would want to bring in a celebrity, it would line thier own pockets, because the celebrities can afford the exorbitant fees the “church” charges for it’s “lessons” and studies. They move up more quickly through the lessons and can pay out the cash faster. Some of the lessons cost upwards of 30-100 thousand dollars…and if it doesn’t work they talk you into doing it again by saying “you are blocked we can help” you fix that….but it’ll cost ya. And the celebrity scientologist brings fans into the church by the droves, as well as other celebrities. thier “compensations” will add up fast and be big…it’s like a second income…tho it may be the first income for people as high up as Tom is now. (These are things I understand from my own study and perspective and are not garanteed as facts. All this information and more can be found at sites online where ex-scientologists and families of scientologists have told thier stories. These people are/were all victims of a cult brainwashing scam for power and money. That is thier experience with scientology.)
It’s awonder that one of those top rating investigative shows 60 mintes or whatever doesn’t pick up the story and run with it….expose it all.
Sally
PS. I agree with the point that you’re making about TC’s dad.
I like Katie and Tom was raised Catholic and have a hard time understanding why any one would want to leave any form of the Christian Faith. I think Tom is nuts, and that her parents which i’m imfromed are active in there parish and attend weekly Mass, Should instiance on haveing this new baby girl baptised and brought up as both God and grandparents in there Faith. Katie should take the baby and go back home to Ohio and live with her real family. Tom is abusive and controling and that’s the real reason that he and Nicole broke up there marrage. Why has’nt Nicole commented on this whole affair because she knows what Tom like and does’nt want any more trubble than it’s worth. Sinoltogy is a scam, I mean he’s 43 and she’s 27 only five years older than me. Leave Tom take the baby and find a man your own age. I hope Katie reads this, and grows a back bone. I mean Joey Potter had some spunk to her, spoke her mind and didn’t let people push her around, Why not Katie!.
P.S.
I thought “Thank you for Smoking” was a great roll for her. Loved her performance best movie yet!
Hope you consider my advice
Thanks Again
Malia
I think the way to better understand his alien highness (Cruise) is to look at his Scientology.
Interesting read:
http://www.rickross.com/reference/scientology/scien269.html
Penthouse Interview with L. Ron Hubbard, Jr. (Founder of Scientologyy’s Son)
Penthouse/June 1983
Some highlights:
Penthouse: Why do you think it’s so risky?
Hubbard: My father drilled into all of us: Don’t go to court thinking to win a lawsuit. You go to court to harass, to delay, to exhaust the enemy financially, physically, mentally. You file every motion you can think of and you just lock them up in court. The courts, for my father, were never used to seek justice or redress, put to destroy the people he thought were enemies, to prevent negative stories from appearing. He just wanted complete control of the press –and got it.
Penthouse: What exactly is Scientology?
Hubbard: Scientology is a power-and-money-and-intelligence-gathering game. To use common, everyday English, Scientology says that you and I and everybody else willed ourselves into being hundreds of trillions of years ago –just by deciding to be. We willed ourselves into being ourselves. Through wild space games, interaction, fights, and wars in the grand science-fiction tradition, we created this universe –all the matter, energy, space, and time of this universe. And so through these trillions of years, we have become the effect of our own cause and we now find ourselves trapped in bodies. So the idea of Scientology “auditing” or ‘counseling” or “processing” is to free yourself from your body and to return you to the original godlike state or, in Scientology jargon, an operating Thetan –O.T. We are all fallen gods, according to Scientology, and the goal is to be returned to that state.
Penthouse: And what is the Church of Scientology?
Hubbard: It’s one of my father’s many organizations. It was formed in 1953, basically to avoid the harassment of my father by the medical profession and the IRS. The idea of Scientology didn’t really exist before that point as a religion, but my father hit upon turning it into a church after he started feeling pressured.
Penthouse: Didn’t your father have any interest in helping people?
Hubbard: No.
Penthouse: Never?
Hubbard: My father started out as a broke science-fiction writer. He was always broke in the late 1940s. He told me and a lot of other people that the way to make a million was to start a religion. Then he wrote the book Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health while he was in Bayhead, New Jersey. When we later visited Bayhead, in about 1953, we were walking around and reminiscing –he told me that he had written the book in one month.
Penthouse: There was no church when he wrote the book?
Hubbard: Oh, no, no. You see, his goal was basically to write the book, take the money and run. But in 1950, this was the first major book of do-it-yourself psychotherapy, and it became a runaway best-seller. He kept getting, literally, mail trucks full of mail. And so he and some other people, including J. W. Campbell, the editor of Astounding Science Fiction, started the Dianetics Research Foundation in Elizabeth, New Jersey. And the post office kept backing up and just dumping mail sacks into the building. The foundation had a staff that just ran through the envelopes and threw away anything that didn’t have any money in it.
Penthouse: People sent money?
Hubbard: Yeah, they wanted training and further Dianetic auditing, Dianetic processing. It was just an incredible avalanche.
Penthouse: Did he write the book off the top of his head? Did he do any real research?
Hubbard: No research at all.
Penthouse: Did your father do this just for money?
Hubbard: Yes. The more he made, the more he wanted. He became greedy. He was really just interested in the use of money and power, wherever it was or whosoever’s it was. Morality and politics made no difference to him at all.
Penthouse: Where did all this money come from? How much did it cost to be audited, in Scientology parlance?
Hubbard: It cost as much as a person had. He had to stay in the organization, getting audited higher and higher, until he paid us as much as he had. People would sell their house, their car, convert their stocks and securities into cash, and turn it all over to Scientology.
Penthouse: What did you promise them for this price?
Hubbard: We promised them the moon and then demonstrated a way to get there. They would sell their soul for that. We were telling someone that they could have the power of a god –that’s what we were telling them.
Penthouse: What kind of people were tempted by this promise?
Hubbard: A whole range of people. People who wanted to raise their IQ, to feel better, to solve their problems. You also got people who wished to lord it over other people in the use of power. Remember, it’s a power game, a matter of climbing a pyramidal hierarchy to the top, and it’s who you can step on to get more power that counts. It appeals a great deal to neurotics. And to people who are greedy. It appeals a great deal to Americans, I think, because they tend to believe in instant everything, from instant coffee to instant nirvana. By just saying a few magic words or by doing a few assignments, one can become a god. People believe this. You see, Scientology doesn’t really address the soul; it addresses the ego. What happens in Scientology is that a person’s ego gets pumped up by this science-fiction fantasy helium into universe-sized proportions. And this is very appealing. It is especially appealing to the intelligentsia of this country, who are made to feel that they are the most highly intelligent people, when in actual fact, from an emotional standpoint, they are completely stupid. Fine professors, doctors, scientists, people involved in the arts and sciences, would fall into Scientology like you wouldn’t believe. It appealed to their intellectual level and buttressed their emotional weaknesses. You show me a professor and I revert back to the fifties: I just kick him in the head, eat him for breakfast.
(My mother was lying on the bed and my father was sitting on her, facing her feet. He had a coat hanger in his hand. There was blood all over the place.)
Penthouse: Did it attract young people as much as cults today?
Hubbard: Yes. We attracted quite a few hippies but we tried to stay a way from them, because they didn’t have any money.
Penthouse: A poor man can’t be a Scientologist?
Hubbard: No, oh no.
Penthouse: What do you think of the great popularity of cults in this country?
Hubbard: I think they’re very dangerous and destructive. I don’t think that anyone should think for you. And that’s exactly what cults do. All cults, including Scientology, say, “I am your mind, I am your brain. I’ve done all the work for you, I’ve laid the path open for you. All you have to do is turn your mind off and walk down the path I have created.” Well, I have learned that there’s great strength in diversity, that a clamorous discussion or debate is very healthy and should be encouraged. That’s why I like our political setup in the United States: simply because you can fight and argue and jump up and down and shout and scream and have all kinds of viewpoints, regardless of how wrongheaded or ridiculous they might be. People here don’t have to give up their right to perceive things the way they believe. Scientology and all the other cults are one-dimensional, and we live in a three-dimensional world. Cults are as dangerous as drugs. They commit the highest crime: the rape of the soul.
Penthouse: Do you mean killed?
Hubbard: Well, he didn’t really want people killed, because how could you really destroy them if you just killed them? What he wanted to do was to destroy their lives, their families, their reputations, their jobs, their money, everything. My father was the type of person who, when it came to destruction, wanted to keep you alive for as long as possible, to torture you, punish you. If he chose to destroy you, he would love to see you lying in the gutter, strung out on booze and drugs, rolling in your own vomit, with your wife and children gone forever: no job, no money. He’d enjoy walking by and kicking you and saying to other people, “Look what I did to this man!” He’s the kind of man who would pull the wings off flies and watch them stumble around. You see, this fits in with his Scientology beliefs, also. He felt that if you just died, your spirit would go out and get another body to live in. By destroying an enemy that way, you’d be doing him a favor. You were letting him out from under the thumb of L. Ron. Hubbard, you see?
Okay Malia,
scientology is nuts but why should Christianity hold any special attachment for katie? Clearly, she found little meaning in the religion if she was so willing to join the “church” of scientology. a fundamental reason people join these nutso cults is because of the utter lack of spiritual worth they derive from conventional religion. this alone isn’t a reason to join a cult, but it’s certainly no reason to remain a committed catholic.
Actually i think you should seriously give this couple a break, they are clearly both in love and to be honest there are good and bad things in every Religion.
Katie is devoted to Tom and obviously wants to share this Religion with him, she wants to be a part of everything in his life and i think this is sweet.
Give them a break please.