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Here’s a picture of Tom Cruise presenting an award at the 14th Annual Screen Actor’s Guild Awards tonight.
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Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 10:19 pm ET
Tom Cruise Presenting at the Screen Actor's Guild Awards
Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 10:19 pm ET
had to say something about all the AJ criticisms. yeah, she’s openly admitted to cutting, and she was seen french kissing with her brother, she wore a vial containing billy-bob’s blood while they were married, she’s talked about issues with her father who left her mother for another woman…. and now she’s working for the UN.
does it occur to anyone here that in some cases (i might even say a lot of cases) that those who were wounded become the most effective healers? AJ has grown up, at least that’s how i see it, and it shows on her face and everything else. pictures of her in the past were rather wild, more goth, and she smiled a lot less. okay, so her and brad have not legally wed, but a lot of people now are deciding to go that route for various reasons. i hear in europe a lot of women are opting to have babies without husbands. i don’t think it has to do with amorality or anything.
Libra: I read an interview Pitt did sometime last year, I think. He said he was still with Jen when he hooked up with and was hanging out with Angie. Jen and he were having problems. He said Angie gave him another option on what to do with the problems he was having with Jen. (In other words, she made a play for him and got him to leave his wife for her.) He also said that AJ and him were spending quite a bit time together before he left Jen for Angie; supposedly as friends. He became more public about this hanging out after the divorce papers were filed.
Also, didn’t someone post a link about Julia Roberts and what she thought of AJ. Apparently her husband was working behind the camera when MR AND MRS SMITH was being filmed and Julia’s husband said that AJ was definately making a play for a very married BP.
In other words, Libra, she made a play for him and was the other woman in Brad and Jen’s marriage. As I said before, I think AJ sees no problem with what she did because 1) She won and 2) There were no kids involved between Brad and Jen. The bigger reason being #1.
Libra, you don’t move out of your married home and move in with your girlfriend right away if you weren’t already spending more time than you should have been with the new honey. Sorry, but Angie and her fans are in denial about this one.
Oh, and I don’t keep archives on this. Most of what I say has more to do with what I remember hearing.
Jajorge: We will have to disagree with that one. It has everything to do with morality and selfishness. Also, numerous studies have been done that show children do much better in married relationships with both their mom and dad. Many of our social problems now stem from too many kids who are shoved back and forth between homes, not being raised by their mothers, and no dads in the home.
Kids need both a mom and a dad. What happens if a mom has a boy without a dad in the home. What is that teaching her son? That males are optional and irrelevant. That he should s c r e w around and not be a man and take responsibility.
Regardless, all of these children should be loved.
when i make comparisons b/t AJBP AND TCKH i’m actually calling attn to the fact that the former are actually substantial people, while the latter lack any of it. libra brings up good points about KH AND TC’S hypocrisy in nearly everything they say and try to convey. at least AJ admits to difficulties in her past. plus, AJ has already received critical acclaim for her film projects, she already has an oscar under her belt — can we say that katie has received ANY critical acclaim? from the reviews for MAD MONEY, no.
as for the whole why not do good deed in your own country criticisms, i don’t think it’s in our place to criticize. yes, there are a lot of poor in america and foster kids, yes, yes, yes. but don’t you think that there are a lot of countries in the world, developing countries, that are as poor as they are BECAUSE of colonial exploitation and global capitalism????? what about bill gates? why is he focusing on africa to alleviate health problems there? should he take his money and put it in the states, since he is an american citizen?
I SERIOUSLY think I would have heard about Pitt saying that….I find that VERY hard to believe…because common sense would tell me that no one in their right mind would say that in an interview!!!!!
brb time to GOOGLE!!!!
battlemama: you should have seen the larry king interview with brad pitt who was promoting his new orleans make it right or whatever project. larry king brought up jen aniston and jolie, brad said ‘whoa, hang on there, suspender boy’ and clarified that the relationship with jen had already ended before AJ. it was nice to see him sticking up for her
okay all I could find was HER interview. SO mama what you’re suggesting is that bp then went on record to say that basically everything aj said in her interview was a lie?? I don’t think they’d still be together if that were the case…don’t you???
The two remained “very, very good friends” from the time the movie wrapped in 2004 until after Pitt and Aniston announced their separation in January 2005, Jolie says.
Jolie says that the time she spent getting to know Pitt before his split was “not as exciting as what a lot of people would like to believe. We spent a lot of time contemplating and thinking and talking about what we both wanted in life and realized that we wanted very, very similar things.
“And then we just continued to take time. We remained very, very good friends – with this realization – for a long time,” she says. “And then life developed in a way where we could be together, where it felt like something we would do, we should do.”
well, i for one don’t think it has much to do with selfishness and amorality. i think decline of christianity in many parts of a once christianity-dominated parts of the world is more the reason. of course, anyone is entitled to their own opinion on this topic.
and brad and angie, as far as i know, live together raising their children as a family unit. the only things they lack are wedding certificate and pictures. maddox, zahara, pax and shiloh all have a MOM and a DAD living together, though they might not have a marriage certificate.
and on julia roberts: wasn’t danny moder a married man when she got into the picture? guess she’d know then.
also, I find the “why not in this country” line very tired and it’s pretty un-informed when you attach it to someone like aj…..because anyone who has actually read WHY she got involved in those countries would understand.
Bottom line…..it’s NOT aj’s JOB to fix the world, this country included. It IS her perogative to find passion and drive wherever that may be. And she has a partner who found his passion and drive IN THIS COUNTRY…so to me…they can do no wrong, they’re a positive bright spot in a business where theres a revolving door on every rehab center, barneys and night club
and i don’t know if it’s true yet, but i read somewhere that they’re adopting a child from new orleans…. could be mere speculation though
okay ladies, I’ll leave you with this little gem…
This is to the “fans” that I know still lurk here but don’t dare to post
NEWS FLASH to any of tc’s remaining fans….if you think his career will ever recover, you’re sadly mistaken
Lions for Lambs was playing in 95 theatres on Jan 18th…….a few days after those videos were leaked
On Jan 25 it was yanked down to 43 theatres
On Feb 1st it was playing in only 4 theatres…..where it grossed approx $49.00 per theatre…which means about 5 people went and saw it
HA!!!!!!!
have a lovely weekend
Everyone: I do NOT condone how and why Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston split up BUT I do remember seeing Brad Pitt with the cast of Ocean’s 12 (at the time) being interviewed by Diane Sawyer and a few tears came out of Brad’s eyes when he said he wanted to start a family.
The show Friends had just ended and Jennifer Aniston was making plans to become a big movie star. She had already signed up to star in FIVE movies:
1. Along Came Polly
2. Derailed
3. Friends with Money
4. Rumor has it
5. The Break Up
Most of these movies BOMBED but the reality is Aniston wasn’t interested in having babies with Brad, she had dreams of becoming a big movie star. It hasn’t happened for her and I doubt it will. She will always be Rachel Green from the television show Friends the same way Angelina Jolie is a movie actress. There is something about certain actors that just don’t do well on the big screen.
I think fame is intoxicating. I mean I remember reading that the last year Friends was on the air each cast member from Friends was paid $1,000,000 (one million) per episode plus royalties from the DVDs. I mean Jennifer Aniston won several awards from this show only I think she got CARELESS and didn’t take care of her husband. I’m not saying it was her fault but Hollywood is a town of beautiful people, but its only like a traveling circus.
You go away to shoot on location and people have affairs and one night stands because their morals are weak and they are lonely, egotistic people that need a lot of attention. I think Aniston got too busy and Brad Pitt found fun, adventure, a woman that wanted kids, and found a meaningful purpose in life. He found a partner that was interested in the things he was interested in and off they went.
Aniston ended up alone with one after another failed relationship and NO successful movie career.
I bet Aniston probably says “I wish it was yesterday.” Meaning “I wish I could go back in time and guard my marriage.” She was careless and lost her husband.
Libraesque2007: That was an interesting tibit. This is clearly the BEGINNING of the END for Cruise. People are TURNED OFF by him and Katie. Both of their movies bombed and guess what Hollywood is about making $$$. The surebet movies are the ones that get green lighted. If you keep bombing at the boxoffice pretty soon you won’t be making movies. You won’t be in the starring role, you’ll be the supporting actor IF you’re lucky.
I think Hollywood is a tough town that’s why you have to SAVE you money because when the seasons click you are left without a chair to sit on. Just like musical chairs.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20177219,00.html
I am GLAD that Heath’s father has RESTRICTED his funeral to only 10 people. Senior Ledger KNOWS that Hollywood is a town of USERS. If its and “in” thing than everyone begins to make tributes.
I remember I reading when Marilyn Monroe died her former husband Joe DiMaggio did NOT allow the Rat Pack (Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr, Peter Lawford, etc.) to attend her funeral because he felt they were the root of her death along with the Kennedys.
Probably Heath’s father feels he ONLY wants people that really cared about Heath to be present.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20177219,00.html
I am GLAD that Heath’s father has RESTRICTED his funeral to only 10 people. Senior Ledger KNOWS that Hollywood is a town of USERS. If its “in” thing than everyone begins to make tributes.
I remember I reading when Marilyn Monroe died her former husband Joe DiMaggio did NOT allow the Rat Pack (Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr, Peter Lawford, etc.) to attend her funeral because he felt they were the root of dimise and her death along with the Kennedys.
Probably Heath’s father feels he ONLY wants people that really cared about Heath to be present.
I have been googling and have some dates that i found (not sure on the absolute truth in them but they sound right).
Jen and Brad announce separation 7th Jan 05
Started divorce procedings 25 march 05
Divorce final 2 october 05
Brad filming Jesse James 16 Aug 05
Jen at a show to watch Vince Vaughn 16 Sep 05
Jen and Vince kissing in public 12 Oct 05
The last two dates were according to people mag.
SO in otherwords although the divorce wasnt final Jen had moved on. The reason i think this: I highly doubt that her and vince’s first kiss was just 10 days after the divorce was final. Secondly she was at a show (not sure what it was about) to watch him in september just one month apart from the sighting of brad and angie togeather while he was filming jesse james. Brad falling out of love with Jen first might be the reason for their split but all this morality crap about he should of waited till the divorce was final is kinda silly when Jen obviously wasnt sitting around waiting for the papers before she hooked up with a new man. If brad really loved jen and their marriage was strong nothing angie could of done would of split them up. Simple fact: people grow and change obviously jen and brad grew apart. No one can be blamed for that except them.
Battlemamma: I find your comments to be very selfish and uninformed. So studies have been done BIG DEAL! Your basically saying that because a couple have children they should get married and live togeather. While im sure this would be ideal for the children what if their parents hate each other, or love each other but just cant make the relationship work? Do you think it would be better for children to live in a house with fighting just because both parents are there?? If anything THAT would cause more social problems. I can see what your saying about it being better for them BUT not every situation has a fairytale ending. Why should we condemn those single parents because their relationships didnt work. What about familys where a spouse has died?? What your saying does not make sense to me. Every situation is different. Children with divorced parents who fight over their kids and bad mouth the other in front of their kids show selfishness and a lack of morality. That is a bad situation. Your comment about a mum having a son without a dad makes no sense at all. How would that make a son feel irrelevant. AND why should the mother wear the responsibility or shame for being a single mum. My sister in law raises her 2 year old by herself because her partner was a s l u t who cheated on her and physically abused her so she told him to p i s s off. He also only visits their child when it suits him which has been about 15 times in 2 years. Its not her fault she raises her baby without a dad. should she have stayed with him for her child. would that have made a better life for them all???? What your saying is incredibly silly and hasnt been thought through at all.
Check out this TMZ video.
http://www.tmz.com/2008/02/03/xenu-must-have-pull-at-the-station/
I’ve seen the pictures of Cruise and Katie leaving this restaurant but watching this video of them leaving through the back of the restaurant and TRY to walk to their SUV which was parked maybe 15 feet from the back door of this restaurant, and they needed a fleet of Los Angeles Police officers to protect them leads me to think that TOMKAT have probably received death threats or something to make them eligible for this much security.
I bet if they are receiving some kind of threats they probably think the way many people in this situation think, “we can’t stay locked up at home because then the harasser wins.” I have never seen them with so much police protection they usually have personal bodyguards but here they also have the LAPD protecting them. No wonder Suri stood home.
Candice, I was pointing out that there is an ideal and a way things should be done. Not everything is okay. That piece of paper, as you call it, means something. Statistics show that people who marry, the piece of paper as you call it, have a better chance of staying together because it does mean something; and the kids are better off. That does not mean kids can’t thrive in other situations.
No, I don’t condemn people who for one reason or another end up as single parents. Ultimately, they have to live with it and answer for it–just as I do for what I do and say.
The males being irrelevant comment was about Moms who intentionally have a baby with no Dad in the pic. This trend is increasing. How do they show their sons how important it is to be there for their kid, when Mom prevented their son from having a dad? This is different from a dad walking away from his responsibilities.
If I may make an observation without getting bitten: You are very defensive about this topic. It shows through with the name calling that has been dished out towards Lilianne and me. Perhaps that piece of paper may mean something to you.
Also, please stop calling me names. I hope we can both be mature and discuss an issue without name calling. I won’t respond to you in the future if you do. I only did tonight to clarify a few points.
Battlemamma: Firstly i didnt call you any name. You said that the not being married thing was selfish and i said i thought “your COMMENT” was selfish. I also said “what your saying is silly” this is not calling YOU silly. If there is something else in there i missed please point it out because i just reread it and im pretty sure nowhere did i call YOU a name. I dont think im overly defensive where this subject is concerend as getting that peice of paper, or not, was my choice. Really marriage is a religous thing and neither my man or I are religous at all. We know we love each other and to us that was all that was required. While we did eventually marry, which i guess was really just because of the tradition of it, it wouldnt of mattered to either of us, or our kids, if we didnt. There is lots of love and affection in our house and i think that is the most important thing. I will say however that i have seen too many happy relationships turn sour with kids involved and being married hasnt changed any of that. And i think that being in a happy marriage with kids yourself (im sure i read that somewhere in one of your posts) its easy to think that every family should have your happy ending. But unfortunatley this is not life. I hold no regard for these studies you talk about as every situation is different. And while you say your only talking about those mums who delibratley have children on their own really every single parented family falls in that category so you cant catagorise (dont know if thats a word) it to suit your own opinions.
Also im tired of being told to be mature and word my comments to suit others or “you wont respond”. Several things people say on here i find immature and i dont agree with and i have been called names and had sarcasm thrown down my throat but you dont here me whinging about it. People write what they write because they are passionate about a subject which i find great. I may not like what is written but i will respond anyway. Personally its the passion in a response that makes me sit up and take notice. I will say again, I will write what i want to who i want and how i want and its up to that person to choose if they want to read my ramblings or skip to the next comment. Im not going to adjust what just flows out of my head at the time to suit overly sensitive people.
well- just a quick comment and link-
marriage or not? I think so-o-o-o much depends on the relationship and how the couple treat each other. and I think it also depends on where you live. in CA different lifestyles might be more accepted than in the conservative midwest. AJ and BP are not the first couple to choose to not marry.
http://www.match.com/magazine/article2.aspx?articleid=7750
I think that if people are going to call themselves “open minded” then they should at least attempt to be that. If you are truly open minded then you are willing to listen to ALL points of view without dismissing them as “silly, stupid, selfish or uninformed.”
It is not possible or logical to expect everyone to agree with what you say or think nor is it reasonable. Candice, you criticized Mama in a post you made on Feb 1 for participating in a debate and then not following it through. You said something to the effect of listening to others opinions is how we broaden our minds and opinions. If you really believe that then maybe you ought to think about something. IF you want other people to listen to YOUR thoughts and opinions and IF you want them to have discussions or to participate in debates with you without withdrawing from the discussion then maybe you should reconsider calling their argument or point of view selfish or silly or stupid or uninformed. You have called yourself open minded but I am sorry to tell you that your actions do not reflect that. You cannot be open minded if you denegrate others when they do not agree with you.
And to call people overly sensitive when they object to having their thoughts and opinions criticized in the way that you have just shows me that you must be very young. It is fine to be passionate about a subject. It is fine to feel strongly about something but I feel that we all have a responsibility to be considerate of others. I know several people who have no filter from their brain to their mouth…they say whatever little thing flies into their heads…appropriate or not, kind or not, reasonable or not. And those people spend A LOT of time pulling their foot out of their mouths and apologizing to others. I will leave you with a little thought that I have often reinforced with my children….
Do you know why God gave you two ears and only one mouth?? So that you can listen twice as much as you speak.
Okay lilianne, Firstly i do believe that i am open minded. To me that involves listening/reading thinking and then making my decision from there. Being open minded doesnt necesarily mean that im going to agree with other peoples opinions but i do read them and give them alot of thought no matter how they have been written (eg sarcastically). I cannot help finding some comments made on here silly or stupid just as im sure many things i have said others find just as silly and stupid. But unlike some people i dont get offended and i have actually stated that to battlemamma before. Im not sure if its because im australian or not (im assuming the majority of you are american) but we are a little bit more laid back here and dont get offended easily. We can be critisized and voice our opinions easily and still be mates with the person we are arguing with. Or maybe because i dont get offended easily i just assume others wont either. But i still refuse to dull down my comments to suit others who can just as easily not read anything written beside my name. And quite frankly some of the things i have written are tame and dull compared to the insults others have dealt each other on this site.
Secondly i dont see what my age has to do with anything but for the record im 29. Not sure if thats considered young to you but again i fail to see what that has to do with anything.
Thirdly, why are we debating the way my comments are worded instead of the topic at hand. Instead of debating how or what i think of others comments i find time would be better spent defending your own point of views (not that you have to if you dont want) or trying to get your own point across.
Lastly lilianne, Im sure, in fact i know, that battlemamma is quiet capable of defending herself and although you see me as the nasty comment maker she is not innocent in that regard herself. She may not be as direct as i am but she has made many many sarcastic comments and belittled others opinions at times. Yes i did say it annoyed me how she starts something and doesnt finish it as her reason was that this in mindless activity for her. The time, length and research put into her comments suggests otherwise to me. So yes im at fault for finding it annoying that some one can be so passionate on certain subjects but when some one just as passionate responds they cant handle it and stop the debate to suit themselves. I think that if you cant follow through with your opinions and debates why make so many in the first place.
Candice,
I have only 2 things to say in reply….
1. You either get it…or you don’t. And it is clear to me that you do not understand, nor do you want to even try to understand where I am coming from.
2. I never said, nor do I feel that you are the “nasty comment maker”. I am quite aware that others here have said far worse than you have ever done and I have called other people on doing just that. I guess maybe the difference between them and you is that I had sensed that you were actually capable of listening and understanding a different point of view. I am sorry that I was wrong. I won’t bother you with my words any further as I feel it would be a waste of both of our time. Oh, and for the record…I am quite aware that Mama is capable of defending herself just as I assumed that you could defend yourself some time ago when she and Libra were ripping into you and I came to your defense. I don’t like to see people treated in a way that I feel is unfair and so that is why I feel compelled to speak up no matter who might be the target.
Candice: I don’t see the point in continuing a debate for the sake of debating. I understand your position. Whether you understand mine is another issue. There is no point to repeating myself. I think in my mind I see things as in ‘We have to agree to disagree’ and hopefully can still be friends. It is your problem if you consider that running away. Also, I have moved on to other topics because in my mind this is done. Besides, Lilianne has a great way of phrasing things and I don’t want to take away from her thunder.
I also get the impression you won’t end this until I agree with you and that is not happening on some issues. One nice things about ‘Americans,’ as you call us, is that we can agree to disagree and leave it at that and still be ‘mates’. (Of course I could be seeing that ‘Americans’ comment through my experiences with my Australian neighbor. She insults everyone she meets, including Americans as a whole, at any opportunity she gets. She calls it ’sharing her opinions.’ Then the minute you call her on something, she is literally screaming in your face and will scream at you about it for months to come whenever she sees you in order to continue her debate. I had to distance myself from her because she would also direct her verbal attacks at my children.) And no, I am not saying that is you. I have met some nice Australians.
Second, I am not offended. I am just not going to be called names. That is tactic some groups here use when they can’t hold their end of debate because you can’t talk to or debate someone who is namecalling. It literally shuts the debate down because of the personal attacks. In the past when I have offended someone with my comments, I have done my best to apologize for them. I even remember sending one to you, but it was not reciprocated. And I also told you that some of your comments have made me think about what I was saying.
In terms of what Libra said to you back at the holiday time, I did not approve of them. I should have said something but again Lilianne did. Although I did write an apology to you. I have also since called Libra and Carla on some of their comments.
Mama,
Thanks for the compliment and right back at ya. You feel free to take whatever thunder you want because such things really arent important to me.
I wonder if maybe this thing is about a difference in cultures? I know that you don’t really have an answer but it just makes me wonder.
You exactly understood the point I was trying to get across and that is when a discussion turns into putting others down or resorts to name-calling then it is no longer a discussion but something else altogether.
You and I have not always seen eye to eye on things and yet we can still have discussions without animosity or hard feelings. I like that and I respect you for it.
Thank you Lili. I really respect your opinions and thoughts. You definately make me think: like the comment about the earrings in another post!
It is possible that it could be cultural or just a different way of handling things.
Lilianne. You are right. I dont get it. I feel you are wanting an apology from me or something to that effect and i just dont see that one is deserved. Just one last thing to think about: didnt you refer to carla’s comments as vulgar and indecent? While i agree totally with what you were saying what is so different about what you said to her compared to what i have said to mamma’s comments. There was a big discussion about differences of opinions but no apology from you for putting down her observations.
Mamma, If i cant call you “americans” what can i call you? I do not insult you by calling you the name of the country you are from. Should i call you a yankee?? And it is true many aussie’s are loud mouthed yobbo’s as we call ourselves although i dont think im quite like your neighbour. In fact if this discussion was in person it would not be as heated as its easier to tell how someone feels by the tone of voice and phrasing etc. I dont expect you to agree with me but your right i do enjoy a whole hearted debate with opinions flying all over the place and obviously thats not the sort of person you are. You seem like a get out my thoughts and move on kinda girl so wether we are different because of cultures or just different people i will no longer direct my debates or thoughts in your direction as i dont wish to waste your time any more. Hang on a minute i think i may be kinda apologizing. Just to finish i dont mind what Libra says to me because she seems to be alot like myself and i respect that.