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		<title>By: Nanyscia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nanyscia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SirLizard, in this article (http://www.tvblog.it/post/16065/roberto-sessa-della-grundy-a-tvblog-un-errore-non-aver-realizzato-yo-soy-bea-in-italia-orgoglioso-de-la-nuova-squadra-sono-fiducioso-per-americas-got-talent-e-sin-tetas) - Sorry, it&#039;s in italian - there&#039;s an interview to the director of the society who thought to produce the italian remake. He basically says it won&#039;t be done, unfortunately :( 

@Lu Per caso frequenti qualche forum italiano su UB? :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SirLizard, in this article (<a href="http://www.tvblog.it/post/16065/roberto-sessa-della-grundy-a-tvblog-un-errore-non-aver-realizzato-yo-soy-bea-in-italia-orgoglioso-de-la-nuova-squadra-sono-fiducioso-per-americas-got-talent-e-sin-tetas" rel="nofollow">http://www.tvblog.it/post/16065/roberto-sessa-della-grundy-a-tvblog-un-errore-non-aver-realizzato-yo-soy-bea-in-italia-orgoglioso-de-la-nuova-squadra-sono-fiducioso-per-americas-got-talent-e-sin-tetas</a>) &#8211; Sorry, it&#8217;s in italian &#8211; there&#8217;s an interview to the director of the society who thought to produce the italian remake. He basically says it won&#8217;t be done, unfortunately :( </p>
<p>@Lu Per caso frequenti qualche forum italiano su UB? :D</p>
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		<title>By: Lu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And excuse me for my awful english lexicon :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And excuse me for my awful english lexicon :)</p>
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		<title>By: Lu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Lizard!
No, there are no considerable news about the italian version...
I noticed a change from season 2 and 3. 2 has no particular visual effects, but 3  is largely computer edited stuffs, like enhanced colors. So I was wonder if in season 4 still has this beautiful style. Is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Lizard!<br />
No, there are no considerable news about the italian version&#8230;<br />
I noticed a change from season 2 and 3. 2 has no particular visual effects, but 3  is largely computer edited stuffs, like enhanced colors. So I was wonder if in season 4 still has this beautiful style. Is it?</p>
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		<title>By: SirLizard</title>
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		<dc:creator>SirLizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lu, the production design has not changed at all. The main difference is in Betty&#039;s wardrobe. She is not dressing outrageously anymore. The settings, props, bright colors, cinematography, etc. are all the same. You must be a regular visitor to http://www.uglybettyitalia.it/ right?

Has there been any more news regarding the Italian Betty? I would like to update the following page at my website, if you have any new information: http://sirlizard.prohosts.org/italy.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lu, the production design has not changed at all. The main difference is in Betty&#8217;s wardrobe. She is not dressing outrageously anymore. The settings, props, bright colors, cinematography, etc. are all the same. You must be a regular visitor to <a href="http://www.uglybettyitalia.it/" rel="nofollow">http://www.uglybettyitalia.it/</a> right?</p>
<p>Has there been any more news regarding the Italian Betty? I would like to update the following page at my website, if you have any new information: <a href="http://sirlizard.prohosts.org/italy.html" rel="nofollow">http://sirlizard.prohosts.org/italy.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: HAzel</title>
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		<dc:creator>HAzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved Ugly Bettys newest episode. It was so funny. The rating wouldn&#039;t gone down if they didnt change the day and time. If it stayed on Thursday and @ 8:00 they would stay the same. Other than that, ok. I really like Natalie and I am soo mad if she is planning something bad. She is so cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved Ugly Bettys newest episode. It was so funny. The rating wouldn&#8217;t gone down if they didnt change the day and time. If it stayed on Thursday and @ 8:00 they would stay the same. Other than that, ok. I really like Natalie and I am soo mad if she is planning something bad. She is so cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Lu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, I’m one of the bigger italian fans of Betty since the first episode went on the air here in late May 2007. Can you say to me if this season still has the same visual effects of the last season? You know, hallucinatory colours on clothes, objects and environment…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I’m one of the bigger italian fans of Betty since the first episode went on the air here in late May 2007. Can you say to me if this season still has the same visual effects of the last season? You know, hallucinatory colours on clothes, objects and environment…</p>
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		<title>By: kelly</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 03:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also just saw those spoilers &amp; it seems like that episode will be the episode that everything will to a head regarding Daniel &amp; the Community. (Wasn&#039;t Jamie-Lynn Sigler signed up for only 5 episodes) . esp. when Daniel gives his power of Mode to the leaders of the Community. The cult might be the secret that Natalie is hiding which is going to pit her against Betty when she finds out. I think when Daniel lets the Commnunity call the shots at Mode, Betty figures out something is not right &amp; with Claire they will scheme to get Daniel out.. from some unlikely allies in Matt &amp; Amanda. I think Amanda might have an idea what they will be like because in the spoilers for the previous episode Daniel is going to introduce Amanda to the Comnmunity. I think maybe this episode could be the that has something to do with a fire...possibly maybe involving Betty &amp; putting her life in danger.(kinda like the episode when she was trapped with Renee (Wili&#039;s delusional sister) in Daniel&#039;s apartment trying to kill her. I think by the time they go to the Bahamas for a photo shoot, Daniel &amp; the Community will be history. I&#039;m kinda excited for that episode...just to see how far Betty will go to help Daniel.(and as usual getting him out of another sticky  situation)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also just saw those spoilers &amp; it seems like that episode will be the episode that everything will to a head regarding Daniel &amp; the Community. (Wasn&#8217;t Jamie-Lynn Sigler signed up for only 5 episodes) . esp. when Daniel gives his power of Mode to the leaders of the Community. The cult might be the secret that Natalie is hiding which is going to pit her against Betty when she finds out. I think when Daniel lets the Commnunity call the shots at Mode, Betty figures out something is not right &amp; with Claire they will scheme to get Daniel out.. from some unlikely allies in Matt &amp; Amanda. I think Amanda might have an idea what they will be like because in the spoilers for the previous episode Daniel is going to introduce Amanda to the Comnmunity. I think maybe this episode could be the that has something to do with a fire&#8230;possibly maybe involving Betty &amp; putting her life in danger.(kinda like the episode when she was trapped with Renee (Wili&#8217;s delusional sister) in Daniel&#8217;s apartment trying to kill her. I think by the time they go to the Bahamas for a photo shoot, Daniel &amp; the Community will be history. I&#8217;m kinda excited for that episode&#8230;just to see how far Betty will go to help Daniel.(and as usual getting him out of another sticky  situation)</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good and hilarious episode. I love America Ferrera,she is amazing and funny actress on Ugly Betty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good and hilarious episode. I love America Ferrera,she is amazing and funny actress on Ugly Betty.</p>
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		<title>By: SirLizard</title>
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		<dc:creator>SirLizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for the promo pictures of Lexie doing some of New York&#039;s toughest jobs, they must have been from a deleted scene, at least that&#039;s my presumption. Or at the very least, they were going to be used as a visual gag, showing the beautiful model reenacting all of the dirty work that Betty had to perform.

Timmeh, to put it bluntly, I think it is pretty obvious that The Community is the cult that you&#039;ve read about. It seems that your ideas of what a cult is are similar to the things that many parents tell their children to frighten them. If cults advertised themselves as these bloody, child-sacrificing, Devil-worshipping covens, it would be very difficult for them to trick people into joining. A cult has to start out as something alluring, in order to increase its numbers. The cults that turn out to have sinister leaders usually burn themselves out pretty quickly, either by losing their followers to disillusionment, or, as in those rare but news-making cases, by convincing the followers to commit mass suicide. Most cult leaders are usually satisfied if they are able to use their charisma to trick enough people into giving up their free will, as well as a good portion of their earnings, to their &quot;churches.&quot; It can be argued that most, if not all, of the world&#039;s accepted official religions started out as what would be defined as &quot;cults.&quot; If a cult and its leaders are really good at attracting people, and they don&#039;t kill themselves off, eventually when there are enough members they become accepted religions. Nobody in any &quot;religion&quot;, no matter how big or small, ever thinks of themselves as being in a cult. Sometimes a cult, just like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the promo pictures of Lexie doing some of New York&#8217;s toughest jobs, they must have been from a deleted scene, at least that&#8217;s my presumption. Or at the very least, they were going to be used as a visual gag, showing the beautiful model reenacting all of the dirty work that Betty had to perform.</p>
<p>Timmeh, to put it bluntly, I think it is pretty obvious that The Community is the cult that you&#8217;ve read about. It seems that your ideas of what a cult is are similar to the things that many parents tell their children to frighten them. If cults advertised themselves as these bloody, child-sacrificing, Devil-worshipping covens, it would be very difficult for them to trick people into joining. A cult has to start out as something alluring, in order to increase its numbers. The cults that turn out to have sinister leaders usually burn themselves out pretty quickly, either by losing their followers to disillusionment, or, as in those rare but news-making cases, by convincing the followers to commit mass suicide. Most cult leaders are usually satisfied if they are able to use their charisma to trick enough people into giving up their free will, as well as a good portion of their earnings, to their &#8220;churches.&#8221; It can be argued that most, if not all, of the world&#8217;s accepted official religions started out as what would be defined as &#8220;cults.&#8221; If a cult and its leaders are really good at attracting people, and they don&#8217;t kill themselves off, eventually when there are enough members they become accepted religions. Nobody in any &#8220;religion&#8221;, no matter how big or small, ever thinks of themselves as being in a cult. Sometimes a cult, just like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.</p>
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		<title>By: UglyBettyFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>UglyBettyFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this episode was GREAT even though I was a bit squemish about it at first.  Thoughts:

Marc and Betty: I thought that this plotline was done very well.  I was completely satisfied with Betty and Marc in this episode.  I definitely love the new attitude that Betty has and I recall reading a comment that someone made about her voice returning to normal.  I definitely agree that it no longer has that squeekiness that made it so unbearable in season 3.  

Wilhelmina and Nico: Some people are saying that the actress who plays Nico is a terrible actress, but I definitely disagree.  I think that she&#039;s a very good actress.  I thought that it was weird that Wilhelmina didn&#039;t have a plan to counter the fact that Claire and Cal were looking for someone to replace her- like Marc says, she almost always has a plan.  Although Nico came through by faking a call from French MODE (she really is Wilhelmina&#039;s daughter, isn&#039;t she? :) ), shouldn&#039;t Wilhelmina have thought of that initially?  Great mother and daughter bonding at the end.

Amanda: Her fantasy was hilarious and unbelievable!  I can&#039;t believe Amanda and Betty shared a kiss!

Hilda and Archie: They are adorable together, they really are!  The scenes where Archie was really mad were the best scenes that we have gotten from the character so far.  It&#039;s good to know that he&#039;s not always so calm and collected.

Daniel: I thought that Brooklyn Decker was used very well in this episode.  I scoffed when Daniel was saying how he was such a good judge of character and how he went so far as to say that he did hire Betty after all.  Betty mentioned how it was actually his father that hired her and I felt like adding to that that he tried to have her quit the first day that she worked!  Also, has Daniel reflected on the women that he&#039;s dated?  One lied to him and another was plain crazy.  Not a very good judge of character!  :)  Anywho, I still love him and I thought that that scene was funny.  I felt a bit uncomfortable with the Community of the Phoenix scene since what speaker was saying (I think his name is Bennett) was so cheesy and I felt that this was where the writer (Brian Tanen) really didn&#039;t do so well.  It&#039;s good that Daniel felt the same way about what the speaker was saying.  However, the community just seems so innocent that I&#039;m not sure how they are going to become such a threat- I was impressed by how subtle they were and how the show didn&#039;t give any hints as to how they may (or may not) turn out to be bad news.  

I agree with what M said in that although the ratings haven&#039;t improved, stable ratings are better than a ratings drop.  

There is an article on EW written by Ken Tucker that I&#039;m a bit ambivalent about: http://watching-tv.ew.com/2009/10/31/ugly-betty-cancel/.  I agree that there are only so many times that Betty can be the underdog and only so many ways that they can keep Wilhelmina from becoming advancing in the company, etc...  However, I also believe that there are so many more places that they can take the show.  In most shows, most women are more older and already fairly grown up, but for a woman that is in the process of growing up, there are many more plotlines that can be used.  A lot of people long for the Ugly Betty that we saw during season 1 and 2.  The thing that I miss the most from those two seasons is the humor since not a scene went by where I didn&#039;t fall on the floor laughing.  With the scenes that we have in season 3 and 4, I usually find myself just chuckling a bit only.  However, season 1 and 2 were also very campy and full of some unrealistic plotlines.  They were also very fragmented and I feel like season 3 and 4 were far more realistic and put together.  I guess a balance has to be struck somewhere between being laugh out loud funny and being realistic- I definitely prefer the latter.  I feel that Ugly Betty still has another 2-3 years left in it.

Sorry Tom about all the long comment entries.  I really do try to be concise, but it&#039;s hard since I love talking about Ugly Betty!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this episode was GREAT even though I was a bit squemish about it at first.  Thoughts:</p>
<p>Marc and Betty: I thought that this plotline was done very well.  I was completely satisfied with Betty and Marc in this episode.  I definitely love the new attitude that Betty has and I recall reading a comment that someone made about her voice returning to normal.  I definitely agree that it no longer has that squeekiness that made it so unbearable in season 3.  </p>
<p>Wilhelmina and Nico: Some people are saying that the actress who plays Nico is a terrible actress, but I definitely disagree.  I think that she&#8217;s a very good actress.  I thought that it was weird that Wilhelmina didn&#8217;t have a plan to counter the fact that Claire and Cal were looking for someone to replace her- like Marc says, she almost always has a plan.  Although Nico came through by faking a call from French MODE (she really is Wilhelmina&#8217;s daughter, isn&#8217;t she? :) ), shouldn&#8217;t Wilhelmina have thought of that initially?  Great mother and daughter bonding at the end.</p>
<p>Amanda: Her fantasy was hilarious and unbelievable!  I can&#8217;t believe Amanda and Betty shared a kiss!</p>
<p>Hilda and Archie: They are adorable together, they really are!  The scenes where Archie was really mad were the best scenes that we have gotten from the character so far.  It&#8217;s good to know that he&#8217;s not always so calm and collected.</p>
<p>Daniel: I thought that Brooklyn Decker was used very well in this episode.  I scoffed when Daniel was saying how he was such a good judge of character and how he went so far as to say that he did hire Betty after all.  Betty mentioned how it was actually his father that hired her and I felt like adding to that that he tried to have her quit the first day that she worked!  Also, has Daniel reflected on the women that he&#8217;s dated?  One lied to him and another was plain crazy.  Not a very good judge of character!  :)  Anywho, I still love him and I thought that that scene was funny.  I felt a bit uncomfortable with the Community of the Phoenix scene since what speaker was saying (I think his name is Bennett) was so cheesy and I felt that this was where the writer (Brian Tanen) really didn&#8217;t do so well.  It&#8217;s good that Daniel felt the same way about what the speaker was saying.  However, the community just seems so innocent that I&#8217;m not sure how they are going to become such a threat- I was impressed by how subtle they were and how the show didn&#8217;t give any hints as to how they may (or may not) turn out to be bad news.  </p>
<p>I agree with what M said in that although the ratings haven&#8217;t improved, stable ratings are better than a ratings drop.  </p>
<p>There is an article on EW written by Ken Tucker that I&#8217;m a bit ambivalent about: <a href="http://watching-tv.ew.com/2009/10/31/ugly-betty-cancel/" rel="nofollow">http://watching-tv.ew.com/2009/10/31/ugly-betty-cancel/</a>.  I agree that there are only so many times that Betty can be the underdog and only so many ways that they can keep Wilhelmina from becoming advancing in the company, etc&#8230;  However, I also believe that there are so many more places that they can take the show.  In most shows, most women are more older and already fairly grown up, but for a woman that is in the process of growing up, there are many more plotlines that can be used.  A lot of people long for the Ugly Betty that we saw during season 1 and 2.  The thing that I miss the most from those two seasons is the humor since not a scene went by where I didn&#8217;t fall on the floor laughing.  With the scenes that we have in season 3 and 4, I usually find myself just chuckling a bit only.  However, season 1 and 2 were also very campy and full of some unrealistic plotlines.  They were also very fragmented and I feel like season 3 and 4 were far more realistic and put together.  I guess a balance has to be struck somewhere between being laugh out loud funny and being realistic- I definitely prefer the latter.  I feel that Ugly Betty still has another 2-3 years left in it.</p>
<p>Sorry Tom about all the long comment entries.  I really do try to be concise, but it&#8217;s hard since I love talking about Ugly Betty!</p>
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